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Re: Show HN: I 3D scanned the tunnels inside the Maya Pyramid Temples at Copan

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Post by lukehollis »

iwontberude wrote: post #78
lukehollis wrote: post #6

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Thanks for visiting! It was so many tunnels.. I feel bad that I don't build faster sometimes, but this took awhile.

Get used to slowing down, it’s inevitable and you shouldn’t hold yourself to an unreasonable standard. Biology’s first principles make this clear.

It was specifically the time in the tunnels from 6:00 AM - noon every day that was an out-of-the-ordinary time and energy investment. It was necessary to be there, so I evaluated as "do things at dont scale."

Re: Show HN: I 3D scanned the tunnels inside the Maya Pyramid Temples at Copan

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Post by gerdesj »

lukehollis wrote: post #43
gerdesj wrote: post #40

Superb! I expect whoever coated the remains with that red cinnabar stuff died rather early, probably with tooth and hair loss and severe mental issues. Perhaps this fate was expected but given that "mad hatters" were a thing until fairly recently, people can be a bit strange when it comes to dealing with poisons. The guide notes point out that only the most sacred rituals involved this red mercurial stuff. I'm not su…

It's something we have to be careful of while working on site! We're really careful around the rooms that have mercury in them--there are few that I didn't put in the guide also. I was wondering about this too: they've found high levels of mercury in the water supply at Maya cities and believe now it contributed to the eventual collapse: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/mercury-and-algal-bl...

I suspect that that stuff is far more contextually important than it might seem at first, despite it being noted as designated only for the most important rituals.

It's ever so hard to try and get inside the minds of people from long ago. I think it is fair to assume that we think in a compatible way with these people and if we can glean enough clues we can reasonably draw conclusions.

It might be informative to look for clues as to what the people who had to deploy this stuff actually thought about it. The amazing carvings, catacombs and so on tell a lot about the Maya people and it seems that they are well interpreted but I don't think that this red poison is particularly well interpreted. I think there is a lot more to be learned.

The archaeology there is absolutely mind blowing. Thank you to everyone involved. Your work is phenomenal.

Re: Show HN: I 3D scanned the tunnels inside the Maya Pyramid Temples at Copan

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Post by lukehollis »

ftrsprvln wrote: post #88
lukehollis wrote: post #44

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Hey, yeah that was me. I spent quite a bit of time last year using pre-existing scanner positions to train nerfs/splats and didn't get anything that was usable, unfortunately. I ended up shifting to Unreal for a higher graphics tier, so if you want to see the Great Pyramid of Giza interior in the highest quality level, you can here: https://mused.com/netherworld-ancient-egyptian-afterlife-sim... For Unreal I used a f…

Really appreciate the use of technology to make sites like these accessible to the world at large. Just wanted to share that I am in the middle of a very similar project with a high profile client & the workflow we settled on has loosely been Lidar scans -> Postshot -> Supersplat (web optimization) -> Babylon.js. Of course we have video/image fallbacks & an unreal pixel streaming version as well - but the web perform…

Wow, thanks for writing -- would love to see what you're building when you have a link to share! My emails in my profile or just will keep an eye out in general for this workflow.

Re: Show HN: I 3D scanned the tunnels inside the Maya Pyramid Temples at Copan

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Post by qingcharles »

volk45 wrote: post #37
jofla_net wrote: post #32

This is great use of the technology. There should be scans of all our national monuments, world wonders, etc. So much better a use for the tech than just Redfin.

Popping my comment cherry here! I’m a 3D artist that is currently encountering staunch resistance of generating 3D models from drone captured photogrammetry of historically protected sites in Pennsylvania, USA. I’ve had resistance from the state and county level in pursuing take off and landing permission at historical sites. Communicating my intentions of digital historic preservation with photogrammetry has been a…

What's the punishment for violating this? Is it civil? e.g. a fine? If so, can we just crowdfund all the fines you'd get and pay them all off for you?

Re: Show HN: I 3D scanned the tunnels inside the Maya Pyramid Temples at Copan

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Post by volk45 »

vidarh wrote: post #74
volk45 wrote: post #58

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PA restricts drone take/off and landing to only 6 parks in the whole state. So for example, Washington’s crossing state park with its 3.7thousand acres, restricts drone/take off and landing by state law. I’ve politely reached out to the park, and being a federally licensed commercial pilot with insurance coverage doesn’t pry that jar open. The airspace classification is the limit, so I can fly over as much as I want…

Tried approaching any of the adjacent private landowners, and seen if some of them are either sympathetic to your cause and/or the type who'd love a chance to stick a finger to the relevant authorities?

This has cross my mind multiple times. There are some beautiful residential properties overlooking some state parks. With clear 3 statue mile visibility into the park.

I’m not fond of solicitors entering my private property - I don’t feel confident knocking on doors asking for that type of permission.

Re: Show HN: I 3D scanned the tunnels inside the Maya Pyramid Temples at Copan

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Post by volk45 »

throwway120385 wrote: post #80
volk45 wrote: post #58

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PA restricts drone take/off and landing to only 6 parks in the whole state. So for example, Washington’s crossing state park with its 3.7thousand acres, restricts drone/take off and landing by state law. I’ve politely reached out to the park, and being a federally licensed commercial pilot with insurance coverage doesn’t pry that jar open. The airspace classification is the limit, so I can fly over as much as I want…

A lot of people, myself included, find quadrotor drones in peaceful natural settings to be incredibly annoying. If anyone who isn't aware of the rules sees you breaking them, they will assume that they can do it too and will gleefully bring their loudest, most annoying quadrotor everywhere they can because "they saw someone else do it once." It also opens the floodgates to all kinds of permitting and other process qu…

Yup, I get it. This aircraft is disruptive at anything under 100feet above ground level.

I thought there would have at least been an avenue to progress through as a federally licensed remote pilot, with an LLC and liability insurance.

Re: Show HN: I 3D scanned the tunnels inside the Maya Pyramid Temples at Copan

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Post by volk45 »

divbzero wrote: post #66
volk45 wrote: post #37

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Popping my comment cherry here! I’m a 3D artist that is currently encountering staunch resistance of generating 3D models from drone captured photogrammetry of historically protected sites in Pennsylvania, USA. I’ve had resistance from the state and county level in pursuing take off and landing permission at historical sites. Communicating my intentions of digital historic preservation with photogrammetry has been a…

I used to live in Pennsylvania across the street from a colonial era house and just a few miles from a national historic site. I love your idea of digital historic preservation but totally understand the skepticism and reluctance of those entrusted with protecting the sites. Is there a way you could partner with the custodians of a historic site so they become part of the digital preservation effort? Maybe offer a wa…

I definitely need to re-approach the county level historical society with a more thorough “pitch” for generating clean and detailed 3D models from drone photography.

The website embed is easy, I’d use sketchfab as the content host and embed platform. So long as sketchfab doesn’t disappear this is the best solution for embedding that I can utilize within my skill set as a 3D artist

I’ll need to see if I can have an in person meeting with larger historical societies so I can demo the 3D models and explain its significance.

I’ve stressed I’m not trying to solicit this as paid work - framing it as a partnership that is beneficial to both parties could make headway however.

Re: Show HN: I 3D scanned the tunnels inside the Maya Pyramid Temples at Copan

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Post by throwway120385 »

volk45 wrote: post #96
throwway120385 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people, myself included, find quadrotor drones in peaceful natural settings to be incredibly annoying. If anyone who isn't aware of the rules sees you breaking them, they will assume that they can do it too and will gleefully bring their loudest, most annoying quadrotor everywhere they can because "they saw someone else do it once." It also opens the floodgates to all kinds of permitting and other process qu…

Yup, I get it. This aircraft is disruptive at anything under 100feet above ground level. I thought there would have at least been an avenue to progress through as a federally licensed remote pilot, with an LLC and liability insurance.

I think if you could find a way to do it in a uniform or with a volunteer lanyard you'd probably be golden.
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