linear set the bar so high but different projects have different needs.. i wonder how tegon and linear compare side by side.
Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
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Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#92Having worked quite deeply with Jira and a host of other enterprise products that target this set of use cases, and having a pretty good understanding of what decision makers are looking for when evaluating these products for fit (I have been that person), what does "AI First" mean?
I realize AI is the hype right now and it seems like most products have to pay the AI Tax (i.e. "Yes we're doing AI stuff so you should our stuff"). But "AI" is a nebulous category, and when a product bills itself as "-first", it sets up an expectation that is fundamental to the product, i.e. if you stripped all other aspects of the product away, what's left at the end is . But I have no idea what that means in the context of the current "AI" hype.
Based on your demos, you've built a fairly standard looking ticket tracking tool that has some AI features. And those are features that every incumbent in this space started adding to their products years ago or are actively doing it now.
I mention this not because I'm trying to say your product doesn't have value, but because the way you're positioning this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. As a prospective buyer, if I'm already using an existing tool, the moment I start digging deeper to know what "AI First" means, I'll find that what this really means is "Jira but with some AI features on top", which isn't very compelling when my account team has been telling me all about their new AI features that I can start using on all of my existing data as soon as I upgrade, no 6-18 month migration required.
If I'm a frustrated customer of those products, AI is not the reason I'll be looking to switch, and I'd be far more likely to be interested in performance, extensibility, openness, integration capabilities, etc.
Maybe that's not the type of customer you intend to target, but if you hope to reach them, I leave this as food for thought. Best of luck to you.
Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#93First, congratulations on launching. I think people are so used to seeing beautiful products these days that it can be hard to remember how hard it is to make anything . Nice work! With that out of the way, here is some critical feedback: - What is the pitch that you made to YC that convinced them to back you? The market size just doesn't seem that large and I don't understand what will differentiate you from Linear…
> Linear (whose design language you seem to have ripped off, somewhat poorly.)
I thought I recognised the name. When it was first posted to HN[1] it was repeatedly criticised -- and seemingly flagged to death -- for being a carbon copy of Linear's design. After that the screenshots were removed from the repo with a "We are redesigning our product" notice[2] until this design was released ~3 weeks ago[3].
Good on them for trying to redesign -- I think it's good that they gave it a shot -- but it does still look quite similar.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40290735 (https://archive.is/Yd010)
[2] https://github.com/tegonhq/tegon/commit/4887ac7e678197f77243... (https://archive.is/MGHeF)
[3] https://github.com/tegonhq/tegon/commit/dafb4337f6a446dba328... (https://archive.is/ABXYk)
Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#94I'm getting a "no healthy upstream" error from the demo link.
We started seeing people creating random issues we will get it back up after cleaning it a bit
Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#95Do you think this would be useful for personal users as a todo/task management app? I have no chance of convincing work away from Jira, but I'm always on the lookout for a better personal task manager.
Hey, we have something in personal task management in our roadmap. We are still exploring how to solve that problem. Happy to hear thoughts on how you do it right now. https://github.com/tegonhq/tegon/issues/131
Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am not sure how to interpret what you have written. Are you suggesting Amazon operated and sold AGPL-licenses software, and thus made a licensed program available over the network, but did not comply with the terms of the license? I am not aware of any evidence of such.
Amazon repackaged MongoDB, an originally AGPL licensed work, and did indeed comply with AGPL, but that means nothing because they did not modify the source code at all, they merely packaged it up into a hosted service. Because they followed the terms of the license but were accused of "leeching off" of MongoDB, even though they clearly licensed it to be used as such, MongoDB then changed their license to a source ava…
What evidence is there that they repackaged MongoDB? How did they "comply" with the AGPL? It seems like they reimplemented it which would be no AGPL licensed works are involved.
This sounds like a myth. There is no way AWS legal would allow providing access to an AGPL licensed work over the network.
Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#97I don't know how to write this comment so it doesn't come off as unconstructive. But here you go. - "AI-first"? What does that even mean? Calling some API to auto-generate a title? Do you really think that a) this solves a big user problem and b) that Linear can't add that in two seconds if they wanted to? - Open-source and VC-backed? Please stop bull shitting me, and yourself. - What is your USP? That you're faster…
Thanks for the feedback. We started this 4 months back and these are a few features we build. In the journey and as customers started using we figured out more strong features.
1. Context enricher - To ensure the ticket has enough information 2. AI agents - To offload some part of the work.
We will be getting these out soon
Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#98I was interested in how the duplicate detection of issues is working. It uses Cohere API for embeddings (full issue text) [1] and vector-based similarity search [2]. [1] https://github.com/tegonhq/tegon/blob/158b54af8d6f7cf4195c61... [2] https://github.com/tegonhq/tegon/blob/158b54af8d6f7cf4195c61...
We tried different approaches, we made a recent change where we started using cohere for re-ranking and embedding which did give really good results.
Happy to create an account for you to try it out. harshith [@] tegon.ai
Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#99Having worked quite deeply with Jira and a host of other enterprise products that target this set of use cases, and having a pretty good understanding of what decision makers are looking for when evaluating these products for fit (I have been that person), what does "AI First" mean? I realize AI is the hype right now and it seems like most products have to pay the AI Tax (i.e. "Yes we're doing AI stuff so you should…
> as soon as I upgrade, no 6-18 month migration required
Maybe not a 6-18 month migration, but you will have a similar wait for Atlassian to deliver something approaching functional.
Of course this doesn’t matter to the leaders that can now claim their ticket tracking is AI enhanced, but the net value of the feature at that time is negative or zero.
Otherwise I agree though. Frustrated Atlassian customers do not move because they really wanted AI.
Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
True performance is our priority. From the very beginning, we focused on ensuring that our app ran smoothly and quickly. To achieve this, we load all the data locally, allowing you to experience everything at lightning speed. Our background server keeps your data synchronized seamlessly between the server and the client, so you get the best of both worlds: speed and reliability.
> True performance is our top priority The server is written in Node.JS
That is entirely orthagonal to the issue. NodeJS can be Fast.