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Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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The comments on this post are interesting: 1. Some insist that the source code be made public. 2. Some insist that there be no in-app purchases. 3. Some insist that there be no analytics whatsoever. Each of the above has some legitimate reason. However, do privacy-focused apps need to play by different set of rules? If so, what special monetization models would make sense to folks on here? #AskingForAFriend

I think this will be the model case for future historians to study software market in our pathetic times.

Period tracker app is something a programming student can do. (Maybe with some questionable choices resulting in potential data loss, but this can be fixed.) You don't need a degree to make basic cycle prediction, and you can't reason about anything else without real medical knowledge. So this is something that can be done once in open source, and put onto F-Droid for everyone to use (and, of course, it already has such apps). Something as simple as calculator does not need “cloud account”, nor internet connection at all.

But how are we going to make money on that? How do we grab data that can be sold from users?

So the snake oil festival starts. From cute backgrounds to “AI advice”, lots of nonsense gets invented to grab and hold user attention, and hordes of paid biological word generators pretend that they have never felt “safe” before using “this app”. Many choose to directly ask for sex and pregnancy planning data to be sure they are the first who can sell it. Everything is done to smoke-screen the fact that users are only needed to input as much data into the machine as possible.

“Privacy focused” is just one of such fake labels. It means “we will try hard to protect any data we can sell from other bastards who want to do the same”.

Needless to say, little data brokers just follow the example of platform owners who run the circus, and dream to become data mafia kingpins one day. They benefit from each other, so you won't find simple apps with no strings attached being recommended by the app stores, because they are Bad for Business™.

As for third party “analytic solutions”, in simple terms, you simply let them collect some data on your users to get some charts and generally useless information (useful information costs money — sometimes a lot of money; each time Google or Apple decide whether they should do X or not, it costs Facebook a large sum, and new agreements behind closed doors).

Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use GA only for the homepage not the app itself

Fathom Analytics offers a straightforward, privacy-focused alternative to Google Analytics. Unlike Google, which collects extensive data to build detailed user profiles (read the link for details), Fathom uses a variety of techniques such as hashing to anonymize data, ensuring it cannot be traced back to individuals. Their approach complies with major privacy laws like GDPR and CCPA, removing the need for intrusive c…

Is this an ad? It reads like an ad.

Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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Congrats on the launch! Since this is on Google Play Store I want to ask why is it not viable with user's consent to just sync app data with your own(user's) Google account? I understand (and support) the reluctance to register and save data in some third party server which likely will use or sell your data but isn't app data in your Google Account very safe? Google App Backup is basically storing user data in their…

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Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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To help drive home the privacy angle, you might consider open-sourcing it and also making it available on F-Droid. Also, why does it say "in-app purchases"? If this is a simple calendar I don't see why any purchasable extras should be necessary. (While many in the HN crowd lack the requisite equipment to make use of your project, we do have girlfriends, wives, sisters, and daughters who might benefit from a privacy-r…

The in-app purchases are a dealbreaker. Not only is there no reason for it, but it necessitates the integration of Google Play Services. If the goal was to be privacy-centric, it already fails at that for this alone. And if the goal was to profit off of women's need for privacy-centric period tracking, then there is absolutely no reason not to find a proper FOSS alternative that cares about its users more than making…

It turns out "I want privacy first and open source" is still a dog whistle for "I don't want to pay for anything".

Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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I actually built a simple one (also for Android) as there wasn't anything easy out there.

One thing that my gf wanted as additional features was the possibility to also track mood (I let her choose among 5 ranges of emojis) and add tags to each day: for example she can create a tag "pains" and set if she had cramps a day or not. All that can be expected to csv/xslx for her own analysis.

If you add these features, I'll recommend this app to her instead :)

Also my app has a minimum SDK 20, so it works with her ancient phone.

Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fathom Analytics offers a straightforward, privacy-focused alternative to Google Analytics. Unlike Google, which collects extensive data to build detailed user profiles (read the link for details), Fathom uses a variety of techniques such as hashing to anonymize data, ensuring it cannot be traced back to individuals. Their approach complies with major privacy laws like GDPR and CCPA, removing the need for intrusive c…

Is this an ad? It reads like an ad.

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Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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To help drive home the privacy angle, you might consider open-sourcing it and also making it available on F-Droid. Also, why does it say "in-app purchases"? If this is a simple calendar I don't see why any purchasable extras should be necessary. (While many in the HN crowd lack the requisite equipment to make use of your project, we do have girlfriends, wives, sisters, and daughters who might benefit from a privacy-r…

Indeed, given the legal complications of reproductive health in some states, privacy would be at the top of my mind if considering to use an app like this.

Not sure why you're being down voted, this is a great point. And a depressing one.

Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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To help drive home the privacy angle, you might consider open-sourcing it and also making it available on F-Droid. Also, why does it say "in-app purchases"? If this is a simple calendar I don't see why any purchasable extras should be necessary. (While many in the HN crowd lack the requisite equipment to make use of your project, we do have girlfriends, wives, sisters, and daughters who might benefit from a privacy-r…

In-app purchases: You can buy another theme if you want. There is no need to do that - the whole functionality is available anyway. I thought it would be nice to at least have the opportunity to make some money from it... I haven't thought about open-sourcing it... Maybe I'll think about it...

Nothing wrong with wanting to make some money. Especially with something like additional themes.

Please just don't hide existing/important features :).

Re: Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my menstruation

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Are the use cases for period tracking: 1. helps planning (e.g. same way a weather app helps decision making around when to do / not do various activities), and 2. improves accuracy of estimating whether conception may have occurred (vs not tracking). Are these correct; are there others?

Use cases: health indicators, avoiding conception, achieving conception, and accurate pregnancy dating.

A well developed period tracking system with a long history is the Creighton Method. Briefly, individuals are trained person-to-person to collect consistent, reliable repeatable data. This can be compared between users, and has many uses. However, the data collection is inconvenient or in some cases impossible, and they will only train married women.

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