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Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by _akhe »

mattl wrote: post #86
_akhe wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Credit is given, for example this one: https://stepify.tech/video/Y4v8abG94CU Says "Channel: Panigale Enthusiast" and the video is at the top-right of the page very prominently displayed. On mobile - I agree it should be at the top, but for UI/UX reasons not because they're "siphoning from creators" which they are not - they are literally promoting the creators. The people making a living from YouTube will make even…

Why isn't it a link to the channel? Where is the description from the video which often includes the credits for the video, including writers, editors, etc? People won't get views from this. This is taking the work of others.

Isn't an embed better than a link? Click play vs click a link then click play?

It's embedded and says the channel name in a giant font size. The creator gets the views.

> People won't get views from this

Do you know how YouTube embeds work?

Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by _akhe »

shortformblog wrote: post #88
_akhe wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, is this the right take? The YouTube player is embedded on the page, giving the creator YouTube views and more exposure. And I think when a person uploads to YouTube the idea is their video will be out there - including in embeds on 3rd party sites. I just wouldn't use the word "siphoning" here. There are countless blog posts, news articles, how-to guides, etc. that will embed a video like this yet also provide su…

It’s literally describing the entire video in a way that is intended to replace the purpose of the video, and only displays the video minimally in the context of the website. It pulls out the information without adding anything of value, while making it impossible for the creator to make money from it. This happens with text content, too. Ask publishers about the large number of AI rewrites of their content going aro…

It by definition promotes the video and the creator.

> publishers not able to make money on their work

Again you're wrong, the creator still gets the view and ad revenue not this third-party site where it's embedded, from YouTube:

  Only YouTube and the video owner will earn revenue from ads on embedded videos. The owner of the site where the video is embedded will not earn a share.
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/132596?hl=en-do-i-...

Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by mattl »

_akhe wrote: post #91
mattl wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why isn't it a link to the channel? Where is the description from the video which often includes the credits for the video, including writers, editors, etc? People won't get views from this. This is taking the work of others.

Isn't an embed better than a link? Click play vs click a link then click play? It's embedded and says the channel name in a giant font size. The creator gets the views. > People won't get views from this Do you know how YouTube embeds work?

No, a link would link to the YouTube channel so it would be good as well as the embed.

The creator doesn't get views unless someone clicks to play their video. Most people won't click to play the video.

Also this site makes no attempt to check if a video can be embedded before displaying the text.

Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by _akhe »

nickjj wrote: post #89
_akhe wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not the only one with this take on this thread and I'm really trying to understand it... Why do some of you think it is not okay to put YouTube embeds on a website???

> Why do some of you think it is not okay to put YouTube embeds on a website? YouTube embeds are a different story, that is an official YouTube feature which allows folks to embed a YouTube video on a 3rd party website. I have no problem with that. YouTube even allows creators to enable or disable that on a per video basis. I keep it enabled because it's useful and promotes sharing of the original content as it was d…

Yes and to be clear the creator gets the revenue, not this website: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/132596?hl=en-do-i-...

> Only YouTube and the video owner will earn revenue from ads on embedded videos. The owner of the site where the video is embedded will not earn a share.

Furthermore, the YouTube creator can choose to not let their video be embedded if they wanted that.

Do you have a problem with every news website that has a video at the top, then an article describing what happens in the video? How would that violate the licensing? It's unrelated to licensing - they're using the official YouTube embed. YouTube manages the copyright of the embedded content and can even control whether or not the video can be viewed in your country, etc. based on such restrictions.

> look at how responsive the original poster of this thread was to most comments but they ignore this request

Irrelevant, but I think because it's obvious you're misunderstanding copyright, or because you wrote such a big paragraph with many separate points being made that it's a lot of work to reply to. The copyright in his footer is for his IP, it of course would not apply to the content inside a YouTube embed. And it's not IP theft to summarize a video in what is essentially a blog post.

Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by shortformblog »

_akhe wrote: post #92
shortformblog wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s literally describing the entire video in a way that is intended to replace the purpose of the video, and only displays the video minimally in the context of the website. It pulls out the information without adding anything of value, while making it impossible for the creator to make money from it. This happens with text content, too. Ask publishers about the large number of AI rewrites of their content going aro…

It by definition promotes the video and the creator. > publishers not able to make money on their work Again you're wrong, the creator still gets the view and ad revenue not this third-party site where it's embedded, from YouTube: Only YouTube and the video owner will earn revenue from ads on embedded videos. The owner of the site where the video is embedded will not earn a share. https://support.google.com/youtube/a…

I don’t know how you’re missing the bigger picture. It is taking away any reason to actually watch the video, which means nobody makes revenue from it. It is not a promotional tool—it is a replacement for the video.

Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by j45 »

shortformblog wrote: post #88
_akhe wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, is this the right take? The YouTube player is embedded on the page, giving the creator YouTube views and more exposure. And I think when a person uploads to YouTube the idea is their video will be out there - including in embeds on 3rd party sites. I just wouldn't use the word "siphoning" here. There are countless blog posts, news articles, how-to guides, etc. that will embed a video like this yet also provide su…

It’s literally describing the entire video in a way that is intended to replace the purpose of the video, and only displays the video minimally in the context of the website. It pulls out the information without adding anything of value, while making it impossible for the creator to make money from it. This happens with text content, too. Ask publishers about the large number of AI rewrites of their content going aro…

I'm not sure if it replaces the video.

It can be an invitation to the entire video because a summary may not cover all the details.

Maybe you are noticing some of the summaries might be better than the videos themselves writing wise?

The folks taking relatively simple videos and extending it out into a video script to milk watch time probably just need to make better scripts.

Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by j45 »

mattl wrote: post #86
_akhe wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Credit is given, for example this one: https://stepify.tech/video/Y4v8abG94CU Says "Channel: Panigale Enthusiast" and the video is at the top-right of the page very prominently displayed. On mobile - I agree it should be at the top, but for UI/UX reasons not because they're "siphoning from creators" which they are not - they are literally promoting the creators. The people making a living from YouTube will make even…

Why isn't it a link to the channel? Where is the description from the video which often includes the credits for the video, including writers, editors, etc? People won't get views from this. This is taking the work of others.

The site is meaning to keep people on the site, not send everyone to youtube. It's a different form to consume and narrow down what to watch instead of investing less time in videos that don't have the information you might be after.

Many genres of videos dont really matter as much for a summary, so I'm not sure if this is super ubiquitious

Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by j45 »

_akhe wrote: post #94
nickjj wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do some of you think it is not okay to put YouTube embeds on a website? YouTube embeds are a different story, that is an official YouTube feature which allows folks to embed a YouTube video on a 3rd party website. I have no problem with that. YouTube even allows creators to enable or disable that on a per video basis. I keep it enabled because it's useful and promotes sharing of the original content as it was d…

Yes and to be clear the creator gets the revenue, not this website: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/132596?hl=en-do-i-... > Only YouTube and the video owner will earn revenue from ads on embedded videos. The owner of the site where the video is embedded will not earn a share. Furthermore, the YouTube creator can choose to not let their video be embedded if they wanted that. Do you have a problem with every…

It's really interesting how some folks don't see this as an additional way to drive traffic to the video, when so many channels have a website of their videos.

This type of tool could help create much more meaningful blog or website type content to build a mailing list around the community.

Re: Show HN: I made a website that converts YT videos into step-by-step guides

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Post by j45 »

whereismyacc wrote: post #58
plufz wrote: post #15

I made something a little similar, but just as a little cli script that I run locally for myself. You can input a url for a YouTube video, podcast link or local audio/video file. It transcribes it with whisper and outputs the full transcript in one text file and I use another model to summarize it into a bullet list in a separate file. I so appreciate these open source/access models allowing us to build these kinds o…

Doesn't youtube automatically transcribe every video with whisper?

Whisper is a different company than Youtube (Google). Youtube's transcription existed before Whisper too so I'd suspect Google has their own for some time.

Whisper's is supposed to be better in some cases, but Google's probably works very well at scale.

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