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Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by jarek-foksa »

meekaaku wrote: post #40

Looks very nice. Is this on webgl? Speaking as a non-professional JS programmer, where can I read about how to architect a program like this where you select a tool, then that tool lets you draw (or do something) on canvas. Another tool, has a different behavior to mouse click/movement while initial placement and later editing of the nodes. Architect it in such a way that its not a long list of if statements for stat…

For any non-trivial editor you will need an object model that abstracts away the low level drawing functions and manages state.

I think fabric.js is worth checking as its source code is well organized and documented. It's not a small project though and the latest version was rewritten in TypeScript: https://github.com/fabricjs/fabric.js/tree/master

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by WillAdams »

Some things I'm not seeing:

- no direct draw/deform/reshape tools --- Macromedia Flash had these of Futurewave's SmartSketch - no scripting

any possibility of those things getting added? (or could I get a hit w/ a clue stick showing me where in the UI I'm missing them)

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by zelphirkalt »

mittermayr wrote: post #56

One quick comment: I was threatened and on the brink of being sued by one of Facebook's bigger law firms, because my domain was called "***gram.com" — I went through a couple of calls with them, and they confirmed that the only issue was the use of the word "gram". I tried to stick to my guns, knowing they had nothing (legally) on me, but eventually had to give in once they told me to research the ongoing cases they…

Only goes to show once more how despicable FB/Meta as an entity is and acts.

One possible course of action is starting a drama on social media (on not FB) and contacting EFF and such, to get support. Still there will be impact on ones social life and FB/Meta should be punished for making people's life shittier. They think they are too big to fail. I hope one day they will be split up or sued into compliance with some ethics, putting on some tight screws and supervision. This freak show must be stopped.

I think in the EU things might look a bit different, because there was some law against such obvious bullshit lawsuits. Something about "slap" or so in the name of that law? I don't recall exactly.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by smallmancontrov »

noduerme wrote: post #76
mittermayr wrote: post #56

One quick comment: I was threatened and on the brink of being sued by one of Facebook's bigger law firms, because my domain was called "***gram.com" — I went through a couple of calls with them, and they confirmed that the only issue was the use of the word "gram". I tried to stick to my guns, knowing they had nothing (legally) on me, but eventually had to give in once they told me to research the ongoing cases they…

Not that I don't believe what you're saying, but how is this a thing they could possibly expect to hold up as a trademark infringement? They literally own a single recently invented neologism of which neither the prefix nor the root is original. It seems to me that Instacart or Insta360 would be much more open to claims... honestly if it were me, I wouldn't hire a lawyer, just let them know to send me a letter what c…

Being right doesn't matter if you aren't rich enough to fight.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by zelphirkalt »

notsahil wrote: post #61
mittermayr wrote: post #56

One quick comment: I was threatened and on the brink of being sued by one of Facebook's bigger law firms, because my domain was called "***gram.com" — I went through a couple of calls with them, and they confirmed that the only issue was the use of the word "gram". I tried to stick to my guns, knowing they had nothing (legally) on me, but eventually had to give in once they told me to research the ongoing cases they…

Any reference to it? I couldn't find anything about Facebook taking action on a domain ending with gram. Was your domain similar to instagram? Because telegram is still out there.

Telegram has probably sufficient money, so that threatening them into doing what FB/Meta wants does not work. They only go after small enough fish, preying on the weaker.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by diggan »

noduerme wrote: post #76
mittermayr wrote: post #56

One quick comment: I was threatened and on the brink of being sued by one of Facebook's bigger law firms, because my domain was called "***gram.com" — I went through a couple of calls with them, and they confirmed that the only issue was the use of the word "gram". I tried to stick to my guns, knowing they had nothing (legally) on me, but eventually had to give in once they told me to research the ongoing cases they…

Not that I don't believe what you're saying, but how is this a thing they could possibly expect to hold up as a trademark infringement? They literally own a single recently invented neologism of which neither the prefix nor the root is original. It seems to me that Instacart or Insta360 would be much more open to claims... honestly if it were me, I wouldn't hire a lawyer, just let them know to send me a letter what c…

> Not that I don't believe what you're saying, but how is this a thing they could possibly expect to hold up as a trademark infringement?

The worst part is that it doesn't even matter if they have a case or not. The mere threat of "Look at how much it'll cost you even if you're right" can be enough for people to pull back.

Recent relevant case is the Sony vs Bleem!, where Bleem! "won" but because of costs, Bleem! had to shut down anyway. So even if Sony lost the court case, they won because they shut down the group.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by erikig »

rprwhite wrote: post #82
junto wrote: post #13

Back in the day I used to do quite a lot of Macromedia Flash work. It’s uncannily similar but a modern take. I’ve often wondered why no one has come up with a new product in this space. I think the long term demise of Flash has put off anyone even trying. There are so many great uses for animations on the web, even if we don’t need full blown user interfaces of them and intro screens like we did back in 2002. Great j…

I think this might be right up your alley, along with some of the children comments: https://rive.app It’s pretty much modern Macromedia Flash. Except a JS runtime, rather than plugin.

I was going to suggest Rive too. I came across them when I was trying to figure out how Duolingo's animations were done, pretty cool tool.

For Trangram - it might help to link each of the examples in the "Explore & Get Inspired" section to the editor, allowing new users to avoid the "blank page" syndrome.

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