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Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by ekzy » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:29 PM UTC

mhb wrote: post #90

12907835202 wrote: post #89

A small improvement in my life I made was to always use the disabled toilet at work and spend a few seconds stretching and sometimes even doing 10 squats or push ups. I don't have the confidence to do something like that in front of other people. But now I do it 5 or so times a day everytime I pee. Perhaps I could add these stretches although 15 minutes is too long, perhaps in 5 lots of 3 or 2 minutes once an hour or…

You're doing pushups on a bathroom floor?

I see your point but an office disabled toilet with staff cleaning it daily, and little use, could be cleaner than most people home. And you can wash your hands right after :)

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by jdmichal » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:37 PM UTC

almara wrote: post #16

shekhar101 wrote: post #14

This is excellent! I just followed along the routine and 2 small feedbacks: 1. Please show the instructions before the stretch begins. Right now it says get ready for the next stretch. It would be useful to be able to read instructions before the stretch starts. 2. Beeps can be slightly shorter. In long term, I can see it getting a little annoying. Other than that, excellent work and great illustrations. Thank you!

Makes sense, thank you! I initially thought having the 'get ready for the next exercise' would help people understand that it's a break but given the feedback I definitely need the descriptions there too. Any idea on how to still make it clear that it's a break? Re: the beeps, couldn't agree more. While building it I also found them annoying but I deprioritised that for the first launch.

"Take a break while you get ready for the next exercise:"

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by tehnub » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:40 PM UTC

rottencupcakes wrote: post #22

shekhar101 wrote: post #14

This is excellent! I just followed along the routine and 2 small feedbacks: 1. Please show the instructions before the stretch begins. Right now it says get ready for the next stretch. It would be useful to be able to read instructions before the stretch starts. 2. Beeps can be slightly shorter. In long term, I can see it getting a little annoying. Other than that, excellent work and great illustrations. Thank you!

Just fyi, feedback is uncountable, similar to knowledge. If you want to provide a number, you would say "2 small pieces of feedback"

Another one I see is pushbacks. This one is less clear to me. You can treat it as uncountable like feedback, but you can also say there was a pushback, which maybe makes pushbacks okay? Although no one says it, pushes back seems to me a reasonable option as well.

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by 1-more » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:51 PM UTC

count wrote: post #30

ericmay wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I may be misremembering but I thought his wife and him (since they are co-authors) explicitly said something along the lines of don't even bother wasting time stretching. It's near or at the beginning of the first chapter. "Do it if it makes you feel good but it's a waste of time" or something. Please correct me if I'm misremembering or outright incorrect. I don't have the book nearby to check.

Historically his perspective was that it wasn't necessary . If you're getting full range of motion exercise, you don't need to stretch, because the exercise itself is doing what needs to be done.

> If you're getting full range of motion exercise, you don't need to stretch, because the exercise itself is doing what needs to be done.

I dropped powerlifting when gyms closed in 2020. I picked it back up recently. With a garage gym it's now so easy to lift without so much dang ceremony, just warm up through the exercises themselves. Sessions all under an hour, PRed all three lifts at my meet, and never got a red light on squats when I used to get one for depth on one side all the time. Stretching is all time fake in my book.

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by dogma1138 » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:52 PM UTC

brailsafe wrote: post #57

dogma1138 wrote: post #48

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Standing desk doesn’t do squat for your flexibility. You should be able using both hands to reach every spot on your back or there about. You should be able to sit down on the floor with your hips bent at 90 degrees whilst both your legs are straight and your knees pointing upwards and unbent. You should be able to sit at 90 degrees to the floor straight on your ass whilst having your legs inter locked (“Indian sitti…

I agree, but looking at the routine it doesn't seem to do much for ham/mobility except the deep squat hold. What part is supposed to help with what you mention, assuming I'm missing something

It wasn’t a comment about this specific routine but more a reply to the GP.

One of the reasons why I don’t like this specific routine is that it doesn’t stretch under load, to actually improve mobility your stretches need to be accompanied with a dynamic load such as body weight, balancing, free weight or a resistive band or cable.

I also do not think that a routine that does not have a test to identify which muscles are too weak and which are overused and one which does not allow you to set specific mobility goals is going to be productive either.

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by boc » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 10:00 PM UTC

tehnub wrote: post #93

rottencupcakes wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just fyi, feedback is uncountable, similar to knowledge. If you want to provide a number, you would say "2 small pieces of feedback"

Another one I see is pushbacks . This one is less clear to me. You can treat it as uncountable like feedback, but you can also say there was a pushback , which maybe makes pushbacks okay? Although no one says it, pushes back seems to me a reasonable option as well.

IMO they are two separate things.

Pushbacks are countable in the context of a debate with both parties present. It’s fine to say “I have two pushbacks on this proposal” because those are specific, countable, contained arguments.

There’s also the nebulous “pushback”, which is used to describe general resistance to an idea or plan in an uncountable way. “The general’s proposal was met with pushback from the oversight committee”.

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by movedx » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 10:48 PM UTC

almara wrote: post #2

I created this side project for my partner, who is constantly complaining about how stiff his body is. Hopefully it’ll help other tech workers stretch out and feel better! (PS: this is my first project launch so any feedback would be greatly appreciated).

You've done a great job. Well done. I went through about 10 minutes. Some of the stretches I couldn't do at my desk - they require too much room.

Make sure you've giving people time to see what the exercise is, to learn it, before starting the count down.

Also, if you could show a hint of sorts of the next, up coming exercise, a user might be able to get ready for it and continuously flow between stretches once some experience with them has been gained.

And maybe see if you can provide an option that allows one to stretch actually at their desk, with little to no getting up from the chair... I know, not ideal, but a 3-5 minutes routine in the chair is better than the nothing most of us do now.

Thank you!

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by lemming » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 10:49 PM UTC

jascii wrote: post #33

yakubin wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correcting someone’s language is not putting them down.

It certainly tends to be perceived that way by the person corrected. It's also debatable whether nitpicking on someone's grammar is "correcting their language", linguists tend to think it's not: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...

I don't agree with this - it really depends on how it's done. I think the way it was done in this thread was non-accusatory, and generally I find that these suggestions are very helpful. Once you get to a certain level in a second language, your communication tends to be good enough that no-one corrects you any more, which makes it really hard to progress. I really like it when people correct me, FWIW.

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by brailsafe » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #95

brailsafe wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but looking at the routine it doesn't seem to do much for ham/mobility except the deep squat hold. What part is supposed to help with what you mention, assuming I'm missing something

It wasn’t a comment about this specific routine but more a reply to the GP. One of the reasons why I don’t like this specific routine is that it doesn’t stretch under load, to actually improve mobility your stretches need to be accompanied with a dynamic load such as body weight, balancing, free weight or a resistive band or cable. I also do not think that a routine that does not have a test to identify which muscles…

I guess I agree and disagree with that sentiment. If you do at least this routine frequently, it'll probably be a good thing, but you won't necessarily progress anything in any measurable way.

Whenever I know someone who wants to become a bit stronger or feel better, but hates the routine or gym or doesn't feel like they have time, I always recommend just showing up to a gym as frequently as you can, but 3 times a week is a good number. You can't optimize what you aren't already doing, so it's not really necessary to tell someone to fet into any particular exercise until they're there and feel comfortable with that.

To that effect, this routine doesn't seem like it's for someone who already has literally any existing training experience, it's for someone who sits all day and doesn't really have anything in movement.

As for my comment, I just mistook you for OP, it was early.

I personally love pullups, bench etc.. and that changes over time, but I'm usually chatting with people at the gym and making connections, which inspires me to try what they're doing and keep the habit strong. If I wanted to apply more rigor to it, I'd probably note my progress in some meaningful way, try to ingest more protein, pay attention to more detailed nutrition elements, but that's like a tertiary optimization that doesn't interest me too much.

Re: Show HN: A 15 min daily stretch routine for desk workers

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Post by Aaronstotle » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

TomK32 wrote: post #65

almara wrote: post #54

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Yep! Who doesn't love a bit of gamification?

I have just one KOM on strava but I keep telling everyone about it. It's also the most stupid one in town, a sprint on a bridge...

in 2020 when i got really into cycling, I was local legend of a big hill I would climb and I was very excited about it