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Re: Show HN: AskHN

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Post by flappysolutions »

I'm quite pleasantly surprised by this response:

Question: what are the biggest fallacies of people that post on hackernews?

Answer: One of the biggest fallacies of people that post on Hacker News is the nirvana fallacy, which is when someone jumps from "thing x is imperfect" to "thing x is worthless" without considering any of the benefits. People also tend to be familiar with certain technologies and will discount the flaws of existing technology vs. the flaws of new technology. Another fallacy is the assumption that there is one best tool for doing things - the one that supports the largest amount of use cases. Additionally, people may use appeals to authority, invent their own solutions rather than use existing ones, and assume that the approaches they first learned are most correct. Finally, people may assume open source software is a gift and that dependencies don't need to be tested.

Re: Show HN: AskHN

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Post by leobg »

MikeTheRocker wrote: post #12

I love this! I used to append "reddit" to my Google search queries to get best results, but the quality of dialog over there has really dropped in recent years. These days I've switched to appending "hackernews", but this is even better.

Same. I have “site:news.ycombinator.com” as a keyboard shortcut on my phone. Use it all the time.

Re: Show HN: AskHN

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Post by leereeves »

setgree wrote: post #88

As is often true of GPT responses, there's some nonsense interspersed here, e.g. the claim that R has "a more mature package universe" than Python. I think this is false, but if you're reading quickly, it sounds cogent enough. As Sarah Constantin observed about GPT2 [0]: > if you skim text, you miss obvious absurdities. The point is OpenAI HAS achieved the ability to pass the Turing test against humans on autopilot..…

> there's some nonsense interspersed here, e.g. the claim that R has "a more mature package universe" than Python.

As a programmer, I find R hard to use and not very well designed, so I can see why you'd call that nonsense.

But when I was a math student, I found that in some ways R does have "a more mature package universe". There were many math algorithms that I could find packages for in R and not in Python, even as a mere grad student.

Re: Show HN: AskHN

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Post by [deleted] »

heleninboodler wrote: post #79
bityard wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's really trained exclusively off of HN comments, I expect most of the bot's responses will evade the actual question but spend several paragraphs debating the factual specifics of every possible related tangential point, followed by an thinly-veiled insult questioning the user's true motivations.

In no way does a typical HN comment debate every possible related tangential point. Do we expect a modicum of intellectual rigor? Yes. But to say every tangent is followed and scrutinized is simply factually untrue. And several paragraphs? I challenge you to show even a large minority of argumentative responses that veer into "several" paragraphs. You characterize this as "most of the ... responses" but I think that'…

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Re: Show HN: AskHN

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Post by agolio »

stnmtn wrote: post #70
btbuildem wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah got it. Perhaps they should edit the intro then, it's misleading.

I agree, that language could be very improved. This is not a GPT-like LLM whose training corpus is HN comments, which I found to be an extremely interesting idea. Instead, it looks like it's finds relevant HN threads and tells GPT-3 (the existing model) to summarize them. To be clear, I think this is still very cool, just misleading.

Soon we will see language style transfer vectors, akin to the image style transfer at the peak of the ML craze 5-10 years ago -- so you will be able to take a HN snark vector and apply it to regular text, you heard it here first ;)

Re: Show HN: AskHN

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Post by setgree »

leereeves wrote: post #95
setgree wrote: post #88

As is often true of GPT responses, there's some nonsense interspersed here, e.g. the claim that R has "a more mature package universe" than Python. I think this is false, but if you're reading quickly, it sounds cogent enough. As Sarah Constantin observed about GPT2 [0]: > if you skim text, you miss obvious absurdities. The point is OpenAI HAS achieved the ability to pass the Turing test against humans on autopilot..…

> there's some nonsense interspersed here, e.g. the claim that R has "a more mature package universe" than Python. As a programmer, I find R hard to use and not very well designed, so I can see why you'd call that nonsense. But when I was a math student, I found that in some ways R does have "a more mature package universe". There were many math algorithms that I could find packages for in R and not in Python, even a…

Absolutely, for statistics and visualization I think R and its packages are (sometimes) superior. But GPT responses don't generally offer those kinds of nuances; the claim is that the packages are "more mature," period. And it's for good reason that the _most_ mature Python packages, e.g. numpy and pandas, are used by data scientists in production pretty much everywhere.

Re: Show HN: AskHN

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Post by notahacker »

danuker wrote: post #47
btbuildem wrote: post #45

My own experiments made me think that the impact of finetuning is comparable to that of a molecule in a drop in a bucket. > “AskHN” is a GPT-3 bot I trained on a corpus of over 6.5 million Hacker News comments to represent the collective wisdom of the HN community in a single bot. I'm assuming you used the openai fine-tuning pathway to make a custom model? Have you tested the responses on vanilla GPT3 vs your custom…

Yeah, to me it looks like the learning rate was way too low to make a difference. I don't see any of the sublime and succinct snark.

Yeah. Also full of GPT-3isms like "ultimately the choice ... comes down to the specific project and its ... requirements" and not nearly contrarian enough

A bot focused on the output of HNers would insist on providing arguments against going through Google's interview process in the first place and suggestions that the correct answer to "Python or R" should be Haskell or Julia and would never suggest prioritising emotional vulnerability or being a happy person!

Re: Show HN: AskHN

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Post by jaequery »

Seeing a ton of projects utilizing chatgpt nowadays. Are the project owners basically paying the API costs out of pocket ? Think it would add up pretty quick especially if front page on HN.
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