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Re: Show HN: Browse HN Together in Three.js

#91

Post by still_grokking »

ambyjkl wrote: post #89
still_grokking wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not work in Firefox on Linux. First of all some spyware stuff from cloudflare gets blocked by the ad-blocker. But this is not the root of the problem as it doesn't work either without the ad-blocker active. Minified JS Script dies with some cryptic backtrace. I've tried on the hyperbeam.com website and it does not work either. It lies straight in my face about a missing H.264 codec. (Which works fine accordin…

You most likely need this plugin: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/open-h264-plugin-firefo... Seems like in Firefox, H.264 in WebRTC is supported in an entirely different fashion than other kinds of H.264, like in an MP4 file.

Besides that WebRTC is a tire fire¹ on any browser, why don't you just use VP8?

Should be available everywhere.

Enabling anything with "Cisco" in its name is out of scope for many (and anyway not available on Google's mobile OS).

___

¹ All implementations have severe quirks and some (like Safari) outright showstopper bugs. BTDT

Re: Show HN: Browse HN Together in Three.js

#92

Post by ambyjkl »

parksy wrote: post #90

The underlying work you guys have done is great as a proof of concept, and after playing with it for a short while there are some obvious flaws and improvements which basically just come down to user experience. As it stands, everyone's inputs clash. The main issue is there's a single mouse pointer and keyboard input that all users control. It's quite chaotic as people scroll, click, select, etc. Provide some mechani…

Thanks for the feedback. We already have this feature, it's just not implemented in this demo currently, but we'll be sure to add it. More info here: https://www.npmjs.com/package/@hyperbeam/web#setting-permiss...

Re: Show HN: Browse HN Together in Three.js

#93

Post by westoncb »

crazygringo wrote: post #87
daenz wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe create a default room for the HN crowd to join? I also had the same experience as OP... "nobody is here".

Seems like the link with the specific ID in my above comment has become the de-facto shared room now, at least as long as my comment stays at the top :)

It's not very umm... cooperative, in there lol.

Re: Show HN: Browse HN Together in Three.js

#94

Post by [deleted] »

ambyjkl wrote: post #89
still_grokking wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not work in Firefox on Linux. First of all some spyware stuff from cloudflare gets blocked by the ad-blocker. But this is not the root of the problem as it doesn't work either without the ad-blocker active. Minified JS Script dies with some cryptic backtrace. I've tried on the hyperbeam.com website and it does not work either. It lies straight in my face about a missing H.264 codec. (Which works fine accordin…

You most likely need this plugin: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/open-h264-plugin-firefo... Seems like in Firefox, H.264 in WebRTC is supported in an entirely different fashion than other kinds of H.264, like in an MP4 file.

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Re: Show HN: Browse HN Together in Three.js

#95

Post by ambyjkl »

still_grokking wrote: post #91
ambyjkl wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You most likely need this plugin: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/open-h264-plugin-firefo... Seems like in Firefox, H.264 in WebRTC is supported in an entirely different fashion than other kinds of H.264, like in an MP4 file.

Besides that WebRTC is a tire fire¹ on any browser, why don't you just use VP8? Should be available everywhere. Enabling anything with "Cisco" in its name is out of scope for many (and anyway not available on Google's mobile OS). ___ ¹ All implementations have severe quirks and some (like Safari) outright showstopper bugs. BTDT

The problem with VP8 is it's almost never hardware accelerated, neither on the encoding nor on the decoding side, so it's undesirable. Also, the software encoder x264 is quite far ahead of libvpx vp8 in terms of the encoding cost vs bitrate vs quality tradeoffs in our testing. We really hope AV1 solves all these issues once and for all in the years to come.

Re: Show HN: Browse HN Together in Three.js

#96

Post by me_bx »

can16358p wrote: post #81

I have no idea how to use (iPhone, iOS 15.6.1). There is a pink background and a black box saying outside virtual PC, and a few keyboard/mouse shortcuts (which doesn't apply as I'm on mobile)?

Same here on linux.

I'm guessing that other visitors get some content instead of the black box...

Re: Show HN: Browse HN Together in Three.js

#97

Post by ambyjkl »

westoncb wrote: post #93
crazygringo wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like the link with the specific ID in my above comment has become the de-facto shared room now, at least as long as my comment stays at the top :)

It's not very umm... cooperative, in there lol.

Yea sorry it's our bad, we didn't implement cursor time-slicing in the demo, even though we actually support it on the API: https://www.npmjs.com/package/@hyperbeam/web#setting-permiss...

Re: Show HN: Browse HN Together in Three.js

#98

Post by ambyjkl »

me_bx wrote: post #96
can16358p wrote: post #81

I have no idea how to use (iPhone, iOS 15.6.1). There is a pink background and a black box saying outside virtual PC, and a few keyboard/mouse shortcuts (which doesn't apply as I'm on mobile)?

Same here on linux. I'm guessing that other visitors get some content instead of the black box...

If you're on linux, you most likely need the H.264 ffmpeg codec package and things like the Cisco OpenH264 plugin for Firefox. Also, try unblocking WebRTC if you block it
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