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Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by mholt »

mayankchhabra wrote: post #74
eightysixfour wrote: post #55

In the middle of building a self-hosting setup at home so I went ahead and installed this to give it a trial run. I generally like the interface and think it is a nice take on making self-hosting easier, but I have some pure stream of conscious criticism: 1. There sure are a lot of crypto apps. I'm not vehemently anti-crypto, but it is missing some "obvious" applications and full of those, so I'm curious what the pla…

Thanks for the taking the time to try Umbrel out, great observations! 1. Re crypto apps, I figured some additional context may help. Before our today's release, Umbrel was a self-hosting OS primarily geared towards Bitcoin node users. Today, we migrated the Bitcoin node to the Umbrel App Store and took the last step in our transition to becoming an app-agnostic general purpose OS. So expect to see a lot more non-Bitc…

Re 3: What you really need is Caddy [0] with this dynamic DNS module: https://github.com/mholt/caddy-dynamicdns

Caddy has state-of-the-art certificate automation and TLS support, and with that module, it automatically updates DNS records if users have non-static IPs. It'll also serve certs for localhost domains (use *.localhost IMO).

[0]: https://caddyserver.com (I'm the author, for disclosure)

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by abartl »

Great project, congrats! I have tried some of the homelab solutions. In some aspects the success of these projects depend on whether you keep testing and updating the docker compose files. Meaning: for years! You need a test environment to test the new versions of the apps as they come out. This can be quite a lot of work that many underestimate.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by junon »

nathan_phoenix wrote: post #43

Looks great on first look, but on closer inspection saw that it's written in pure JavaScript (0% TypeScript) + Bash. Honestly makes me a bit worried about security. Now, I'm not so thrilled about it anymore...

Judging the security of an application based on its use of typescript is like when people judge the intelligence of a person depending on if they have an English or an American accent.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by ibz »

nullcipher wrote: post #59
eightysixfour wrote: post #55

In the middle of building a self-hosting setup at home so I went ahead and installed this to give it a trial run. I generally like the interface and think it is a nice take on making self-hosting easier, but I have some pure stream of conscious criticism: 1. There sure are a lot of crypto apps. I'm not vehemently anti-crypto, but it is missing some "obvious" applications and full of those, so I'm curious what the pla…

why is there so much crypto stuff? Probably me but by default I don't trust things that are crypto related.

Umbrel started as a way to easily host a Bitcoin node, so naturally there is plenty of Bitcoin related stuff. I think they only have one crypto (ie non-Bitcoin) app though.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by ibz »

nathan_phoenix wrote: post #43

Looks great on first look, but on closer inspection saw that it's written in pure JavaScript (0% TypeScript) + Bash. Honestly makes me a bit worried about security. Now, I'm not so thrilled about it anymore...

How is TypeScript more "secure" than JavaScript?

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by ibz »

wmf wrote: post #68
chrisshroba wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure I'm in the minority of HN folks, but I'm a fan of tools/OS'es/whatever that make a concerted effort to follow design trends and present a modern-looking UX.

The problem is that products that call themselves beautiful almost always aren't.

Umbrel is beautiful though.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by ibz »

layer8 wrote: post #37
chrisshroba wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure I'm in the minority of HN folks, but I'm a fan of tools/OS'es/whatever that make a concerted effort to follow design trends and present a modern-looking UX.

To “follow design trends and present a modern-looking UX” is far from synonymous with “beautiful”, which in turn is very much in the eye of the beholder. The problem with “beautiful” is that it’s a manipulative fluff word which gives no information whatsoever about the product except that its marketing people seem to want the product to be perceived as beautiful. The other issue is its inflationary use. Every other p…

> except that its marketing people seem to want the product to be perceived as beautiful

It means they care about beauty in the first place, which is already a huge plus.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by ibz »

senectus1 wrote: post #70

the cryptocurrency theme makes me want to avoid it as an immediate visceral reaction. and I dabble in cryptocurrency. I would suggest that you will struggle to grow in the mainstream with that theme.

Are you suggesting that cryptocurrencies will fail to go mainstream?
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