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Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by quickthrower2 »

This is good, but also sad in a way. It means Jo Blogg's blog won't get discovered and they may have had some good information on the topic.

One way to improve is a "bring your own list" feature, and the ability to include vetted lists. Maybe some kind of web of trust - if your friends have whitelisted a site, it is whitelisted for you too. If you find a problem with that site, you let your friend know to remove it. If they don't respond you can remove that friend from your trusted persopn list (maybe they got hacked?). Then maybe you can 'follow' a few lists of famous trusted people (e.g. paulg etc.) to build up a bigger slice of the internet you can search.

A spammer will want to come in then and create something that white lists their spam sites, but they need to convince you to add their list! And when you see the spam you can just unfollow them. They can't succeed.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by jhugo »

imglorp wrote: post #73
jhugo wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most. Yandex is great, especially for programming searches. It generally ranks GitHub, Stack Overflow and other content-heavy sites highly. Google has been taken over by weird clones of GitHub and SO lately, Yandex has no such trash. It completely boggles my mind that the useless GitHub and SO clones rank first page on Google. Do engineers at Google not use their own product?

> Google has been taken over by weird clones of GitHub and SO lately Do you have an example search leading to a GitHub clone?

I don't have an example search, although I'll try to remember to update this comment the next time it happens. On average I come across these things at least once a day, but it depends what I'm working on. It tends to be when searching for more obscure bugs, for which there is a GitHub issue but it's not ranked highly on Google for whatever reason, but these spam sites are ranked highly.

GitMemory is probably the most well-known example; it's just a thin layer over the GitHub API with a completely garbage UI, yet it often ranks higher than GitHub itself.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

#93

Post by razemio »

rickdeveloper wrote: post #67
razemio wrote: post #60

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Thanks for sharing. My initial comment sounded a bit harsh. I am sorry for that. I will look into fine tuning it for my needs. It is an interesting approach to a very annoying problem.

NP :) It's exciting to have people using & commenting on something I build. > I will look into fine tuning it for my needs. It is an interesting approach to a very annoying problem. If a premium version were available with a customizable whitelist, would you pay for that? The API is around $5 / 1000 searches so it would cost about the same.

Yes, a product which cleans my search from most referral sites is something I would pay for.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by pseingatl »

pacificmint wrote: post #12

I need to buy a 3 hole punch, and when searching for reviews yesterday I had the same problem of lots of hits with affiliate links and low quality sites. I searched for “3 hole punch review” [1] here, and the results have zero relevancy. First one is a Chinese cell phone company, second a Wikipedia page for an episode of the office, third a thesaurus page with synonyms for ‘colorful’ and fourth a link to the Wikipedi…

The three hole punch device is only standard in the US and Canada. Everywhere else, it's two punch. This might explain the anomaly.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

#95

Post by BlueTemplar »

blaerk wrote: post #46
BlueTemplar wrote: post #17

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While I can understand the appeal, restricting your search engine to only ~120 websites out of hundreds of millions (?) is basically giving up on the Web. (BTW, any good search engines these days that aren't indirectly using Google or Bing ?)

I think https://www.qwant.com/ use their own, just started using it so I can't really say much about it other than it seems alright compared to ddg and google(?)

Last time I checked, it just used an old index from Bing ?

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by BlueTemplar »

narrator wrote: post #32
BlueTemplar wrote: post #17

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While I can understand the appeal, restricting your search engine to only ~120 websites out of hundreds of millions (?) is basically giving up on the Web. (BTW, any good search engines these days that aren't indirectly using Google or Bing ?)

There's http://yandex.com . It's great if you want to search controversial subject matter and controversial results that Google wouldn't give you. The reverse image search is also amazing.

I should have mentioned : ideally from the EU.

Big Russian or Chinese software is even more out of the question than the GAFAMs (if they're big, they definitely have authorities messing with the results).

Hmm, what about Baltic or Ukrainian or Israeli search engines ?

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

#97

Post by lionkor »

dataflow wrote: post #51
rickdeveloper wrote: post #2

I built this website a couple of months ago because I was annoyed by how hard it was to find useful things on Google. As "Google no longer producing high quality search results in significant categories" [0] is currently #1 on the front page I figured I'd share this project again. I hope it's useful to some people. 'No Trash Search' is very focussed on STEM and not "for daily use". It's surprisingly good when you're…

You might want to add cppreference.com to your list of programming sites.

Seems to be in there now :)

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

#98

Post by yanmaani »

rickdeveloper wrote: post #65
yanmaani wrote: post #25

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How about using the Bing API? Isn't that more open? With caching, I think you might be able to reduce the load. Also, why is w3fools in the list? It's an awful site.

Yes! Maybe I'll build a premium customizable version out of it. Do you think that'd be useful? Bing charges around $5 per 1000 searches, so the premium version would be around the same (with caching covering hosting, maybe).

I think I might be willing to pay some amount of money for it, but not very much. I think a lot of other people would be willing to pay decently.

If you want to be cynical, just do Bing/DDG searches over Tor, and scrape that into the cache. This is $0/1000 searches, though it obviously violates some ToS somewhere. Unless they want to block Tor, you should be good.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by msrenee »

jhugo wrote: post #90
msrenee wrote: post #76

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Don't have time to mess with it right now, but does it normally return about half results in Russian or is that something my phone/browser is doing?

I get usually about 10-25% in Russian.

Thanks. I've got a basic understanding of Russian and have some settings on my phone to read and write in Cyrillic, so I wasn't sure if it was something to do with that or just the way the site works.
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