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The human mind's ability to see into the future based on sparse data is a fascinating phenomenon, and fairly ubiquitous.
The human mind's ability to incorrectly apply that foresight to others is equally ubiquitous, however.
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#92Very nice. Can each msg have it's own pickup / delivery time? For example, I might want Msg A to Person X be lunch-ish, but B to Y might be after work. An example scenario might be a personal trainer reminding X to eat and health lunch, but Y gets an after work nudge to go to the guy. Note: I realize such things could be self-reminders (read: TODO app) but there's sonething to be said for hearing from someone else an…
Thanks a lot! > Can each msg have it's own pickup / delivery time? That would really get into the realm of things like Boomerang, of which many already exist. Pony is more like "email if it was actually electronic mail." The post person comes and delivers new things and picks up anything you're sending. I think microconfigurability adds a lot to cognitive load, which I am trying to minimize.
With that said, to your point about overload, I think it's worth considering the receiver (not only the sender). That is, for example, you want to mitigate my overload. (Thank you! :)) And I want to mitigate the strain on my receiver.
Maybe that's still Boomerang? I'll have to check it out. My point is, our ideals are very similar when you take a step back.
Thanks again.
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#93this is great, solid implementation and very similar to an idea I had floating around in my head. glad to see it live. while I don't have anyone to message yet, I plan to put this on my social media profiles as a contact point. any concerns about spam? I figure it won't be as bad as most services but I still for see people sending spam if it gets even moderately popular.
Definitely lots of concerns about spam. I've actually been soft launching this and have already had spam. And not just spam, but harassment, too. All the stuff that comes with an online community. After network effects, striking a good balance with moderation be a real challenge.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
The human mind's ability to incorrectly apply that foresight to others is equally ubiquitous, however.
And the human mind's ability to then use said "insight" to demean others, is also unfortunately ubiquitous.
Is it really that bad? It's plausible, but I'm skeptical.
Regardless, it is surely suboptimal. I wonder if there are more optimal approaches than "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" (my Mom's advice)....can you think of any?
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Thank you! I really appreciate it. > However, no mention of monetization strategy. Thanks for bringing this up. I was hoping to give a brief introduction and then to field questions. I will definitely not be selling personal data, or data otherwise. I do have some monetization ideas, and I'm really excited to try them out. They're all going to fit nicely with the core concept of the platform: periodicity. One of them…
> While I consider myself a really solid full stack developer and believe that Pony's infrastructure is secure, I do not have the requisite experience with cryptography to honestly represent to people that this is a private platform. It would be great if this existed as an infrastructure-level service. Something like the Signal “API” that allows apps like yours to be built on top.
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#96At least my sending can get scheduled. And maybe also autoresponders.
Wont be exactly the same.
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I am constitutionally unable to proofread before sending, and conversely unable to _not_ proofread after sending. It's bizarre. I wish GMail's "delay send" feature had a much longer maximum time...
I also identify with this 100%. It's probably a personality flaw of some sort.
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#98I think it's a really cool idea but you have a network effect issue. I would expect it to be hard to get enough of my friends on it for it to be useful. Integrations with existing message apps and environments would be ideal, though I'm not exactly sure how that would look.
There’s also the “issue” of people most likely also have other types of communications with the same people they’ll have on Pony. Means that you could get in a situation where most of their messages will still come in on other channels, and the all the mindfulness will quickly be lost. It’s a great idea, but without uninstalling other messaging clients the goal of a mindful messaging life seem impossible.
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#99Super happy you're offering a direct APK download. That's how all android apps should be available.
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#100I think it's a really cool idea but you have a network effect issue. I would expect it to be hard to get enough of my friends on it for it to be useful. Integrations with existing message apps and environments would be ideal, though I'm not exactly sure how that would look.
It's very simple - just open your email client once per day. 100 % a same thing, with an existing network, using a tool you already have. That's what I do anyway :).
And more fundamentally, I'd say there's a difference because Pony changes not just how you personally receive messages but also the kind of messages that people send to you. Having that extra time and structure, and knowing that your correspondent does too, can make a qualitative difference.