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Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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I actually really love that there's more people focusing on this problem. Its one a friend of mine also tried to address, with https://enterflow.app/ As someone with extreme ADHD, this has made my life so much easier and reduced my tab clutter. I love how this is so hot-key rich, I think like everyone else has kind of mentioned I wish we had chrome extensions, last pass, editthiscookie etc. It's the pro vs con of goi…

Today I decided to check out the state of Microsoft Edge after installing Windows 11 and it felt like I am fighting the browser to stop throwing stuff on me in order to focus and just do the work I want to do. News section, sports, suggestions flooded me. The address bar tapping both bookmarks and history spits a dozen lines on every keypress assuming things. I'm not even diagnosed with ADHD and I'm still tired that…

Alas, the state of the tech advertising industry…

Honestly, it’s all so exhausting I’m just so damn tired. You can’t even buy an OS anymore that isn’t loaded to the brim with bloat and spyware—provided BY THE MANUFACTURER nonetheless.

Honestly, once Windows ten is end Of life I’m done with tech industry.

I’ll go to the library and read some books; I’ll use a pen/pencil; I’ll wander, blissfully into the sunset.

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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Thinking about how to achieve some of these features in Firefox

1. An extension like Tree Style Tabs, but in a dedicated tab, which is pinned to the first tab, so easily accessible with `Alt+1`.

2. A keyboard shortcut for detaching the tab (via something like Tridactyl) and then resizing it using a tiling window manager.

2 is easy to achieve, if 1 does not yet exist in some form I might build it someday.

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

#96

What I really want is a browser that displays information in a clear, unified format that I can customize to my liking. I want this browser to disregard all visual HTML and CSS rendering, and rather instrument a headless browser to gather the navigation and content from sites. I want to be able to easily make my own instrumentation for sites that do not yet work on this browser. I’m want to allow some branding in the…

Here's a cook UX project [0] that shows a potential UI-free operating system like you described.

[0] https://uxdesign.cc/introducing-mercury-os-f4de45a04289

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried KDE? It has tiling shortcuts (not enabled by default) and an always-on-top feature for windows. Also, I once set up KDE 4 to put different apps into tabs of a single window. I'm not sure if KDE 5 can still do that, but it sounds like something that you would be interested in.

I have tried KDE, but it's been a while. Maybe I'll give it a look again now that I have a nice powerful machine.

  > now that I have a nice powerful machine.
You're going to love KDE 5, if your last experience with KDE was back in the early 4 days when it was a memory and CPU hog. Today I don't even notice it at all. Just be sure to disable the File Search feature in System Settings. And it really is called File Search now, not some cryptic name that changed every other version.

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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These kinds of niche browsers come up so often, and I love the idea, but I'm constantly thrown off by both the lack of extension support and the lack of other privacy guarantees that come through Firefox. I can't, for example, turn off webGL on this browser, or use Firefox's anti-fingerprinting features. And of course uBlock.

What I'm starting to realize is that the answer to this probably isn't just to try and add extension support to Electron or to get every project to reimplement webExtensions. Reimplementations are likely to have errors anyway. I'm slowly starting to realize that this is likely the wrong way to solve the extension problem.

Instead what I think is needed here is some kind of shared base for handling network connections, extensions, privacy, and adblocking. Honestly, it doesn't necessarily even need to be a graphical browser, these projects don't have a problem rendering content or embedding a V8 engine. What they need is some kind shared, trusted utility that they can all use to hook into that would almost act like a MITM between the page and them.

I look at stuff like Servo/Stylo, and that's obviously exciting, but the hard part here doesn't seem to be rendering CSS/HTML, laying out pages, and executing Javascript. The hard part is switching browsers without feeling like you're giving up a lot of security/privacy work in the process, and maybe there's some way for a shared framework to do that without worrying about the rendering part at all? I would love to try out a browser like Bonsai while keeping most of my existing Firefox settings in regards to privacy, site isolation, adblocking, etc... Whether that would be some kind of proxy that sat between browsers and the Internet, or whether it was something that browsers could be built on? I don't know, I'm sure there are complications I haven't thought of.

Am I off base with this? There's so much talk about how browsers are wildly complicated and that makes it hard to build new ones. But the showstoppers for me with indie browsers rarely have anything at all to do with web compatibility or what engine they're using. That's not really the part that I feel like is missing. I almost wonder if it would be possible to hook something up to headless Firefox as a middleperson so that Firefox could at least do some work with forcing DoS, running pages through uBlock Origin, quarantining storage, etc...

Matrix has sort of tried to work in this direction with some of their clients. Stuff like E2E encryption isn't recommended to build yourself -- Matrix tries to provide a service you can link with whatever your custom client is that just handles E2E for you -- that way when you use a custom client, it's less likely that they've accidentally encrypted all of your messages incorrectly.

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

#99
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP is saying browser extensions don't work. Not that LastPass doesn't work with the browser.

And I am saying Bitwarden is not tied to a web browser - it has a desktop client.

As does LastPass

Re: Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

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> ... that helps programmers think clearly This marketing pitch does not ring true to me. I think the founders can do better. The bar, in my view, would be a phrase that embodies the product without stretching credibility. In other words, the current phrase sets expectations too high relative to the product.

I find the pitch true to the extent that it says "helps" and I think that much is true. How much is helps and whether it helps more than any other random tool is another matter. There's another comment that says something more general like a window manager or DE that allows any content to be overlaid like this would be better. I think I agree with that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28447659

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