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As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

There's a crazy amount of inertia around the 'mushroom foraging is only for experts' idea. I was just telling my mother in law this weekend that in our area there are no killer mushrooms. There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright. I was trying to encourage her to try some of the more well known edible wild varieties (wh…

> There's a crazy amount of inertia around the 'mushroom foraging is only for experts' idea.

Yeah, it's for good reason, when it comes to "LBMs" - little brown mushrooms - of which the Psilocybe genus is largely composed: You can find example photos of Psychoactive species literally growing right next to e.g. Gallerina species, which will nuke your liver.

https://www.fungusfactfriday.com/124-galerina-marginata/

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From the story it doesn't even appear that they attempted an ID until after they were very ill. Back to the car analogy, if someone kills themself driving down the wrong side of the highway we don't all give up on driving because it is unsafe. Yes you can definitely kill yourself foraging mushrooms. It's exceptionally unlikely with even a small bit of precaution and common sense but of course if you disregard all of…

The article is only about prevalence of P. Sem. (Liberty cap). In my experience and in a network of many other people, there are precisely ZERO little brown mushrooms having BOTH a passing resemblance to p. sem. in any conditions (dry/wet or young/old) AND are noxious let alone dangerous. If its your first time, be cautious, take a good book. On a dry day P. Sem. is easier to distinguish from other species that are s…

This advice is only going to be true in your region. If someone picks up a guidebook for your region and it says that they are safe to pick there then I'm all for it

This is exactly why most foraging illnesses happen to travelers because some thing that is true in a specific place is frequently not true in other places.

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As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

There's a crazy amount of inertia around the 'mushroom foraging is only for experts' idea. I was just telling my mother in law this weekend that in our area there are no killer mushrooms. There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright. I was trying to encourage her to try some of the more well known edible wild varieties (wh…

What area are you in that has nothing deadly? That is pretty surprising to me that anywhere meets that criteria. Cool if true.

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I have to say, those are incredibly beautiful specimens. Do you know what species that is off hand?

Could be a neoboletus luridiformis with an unusually slim stem. In any case, I would say the color saturation in this picture is cranked up quite a bit.

You are probably right that they played with saturation here but I don't think by that much. I've seen boletes that look pretty close to that in person in the 5-10 seconds after you tear them.

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As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

This is of interest to me. Could you recommend IL state booklet?

I'd recommend to go on facebook or just on the web and look for a local group related to foraging. Everyone there will know what the best books are for your region because 10 people probably join that group everyday and ask the same question and they will probably have a stock answer.

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"There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright." This is false and dangerous misinformation! Mushrooms can certainly kill you, and people have died from eating poisonous mushrooms. Just one example, from the Amanita[1] genus: "Several members of the section Phalloidieae are notable for their toxicity, containing toxins know…

He was noting in his specific locale, where it's entirely possible that there aren't any toxic/poisonous variants.

I'm actually kind of skeptical that anywhere exists with no toxic mushrooms. I know in my region there are many. Probably 100+ and at least 5-10 very common ones.

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Any time someone says "this is xyz 101, how could anyone be so confused", I hear instead "the human capacity for doing something without what others view as 'minimum sufficient education to survive it' remains unchanged throughout human history", which is precisely why the warnings are so dire. It's not to scare people away, it's just to offer them a defense versus their own curiosity and impulsiveness until they cho…

I guess... I mean, it is more mysterious than you suggest, given that this fellow had been foraging for 10 years apparently. It's like a driver mixing up the gas and the brake pedal. I don't really have an explanation.

Ah! That sounds like a job for an NTSB-type analysis, because most human WTFs are built on a series of improbable events.

Maybe their glasses were fogged? Maybe the afternoon light was at the right angle to hide the 'gills' enough that their check failed? Maybe they had a time-efficient shortcut that finally found an edge case they hadn't planned for?

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As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

There's a crazy amount of inertia around the 'mushroom foraging is only for experts' idea. I was just telling my mother in law this weekend that in our area there are no killer mushrooms. There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright. I was trying to encourage her to try some of the more well known edible wild varieties (wh…

Where do you live that there are no deadly mushrooms? Some amanita species are rapidly spreading to places they haven't been sighted before.

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As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

Always cook mushrooms, you can taste a little when out foraging to help identify but all mushrooms should be cooked (even lightly) before being consumed as food. Magic mushrooms are consumed raw.

Even store-bought mushrooms should be cooked. There is some evidence that the common white button mushroom contains some carcinogens when raw.

https://grantome.com/grant/NIH/R01-CA031611-05

(Note: other studies have concluded the dosage is too low for concern, the jury is still out)

But also, many kinds of bacteria can thrive in mushroom growing conditions - good idea to sterilize before you eat.

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