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Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by SimonPStevens »

hammock wrote: post #83
SimonPStevens wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way I see it is that you create the context yourself. You create a pool and only share the URL with people in a known context (such as your colleagues at work). That way you all get to discover where you are in the spread of your team, but without knowing which salary is tied to which individual. Obviously, how you structure the context defines what it means to you. If you share it with everyone from managers to…

If the users create the context themselves, which makes sense, then why do you ask for 'US dollars only please'? Because you want to use this data yourself?

Yes, good point. The OP should change it to be more generic to the users context.

Either allow configuration of currency, or a customised message or something like that.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by hammock »

mbowcock wrote: post #12

HN Salary Pool http://salaryshare.me/230acd5ff2df1bf8cb03f403aabd45be If any ones interested.

Here's what the distribution looks like so far, after trimming the ends off-

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7461/21709307.jpg

Looks like $50-60K is coming up as the peak of this when you bucket the answers into $10k classes. For the record, "finding the mean" is not the appropriate way to look at this type of data.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by hammock »

aristidb wrote: post #54
evoltix wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not asking for your net worth. ;)

But the college asks for $20K every year, so that could be considered a negative salary.

That would be net income, not gross. Net income is salary/other income minus expenses. That's clearly not what people are entering here.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by praptak »

hammock wrote: post #83
SimonPStevens wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way I see it is that you create the context yourself. You create a pool and only share the URL with people in a known context (such as your colleagues at work). That way you all get to discover where you are in the spread of your team, but without knowing which salary is tied to which individual. Obviously, how you structure the context defines what it means to you. If you share it with everyone from managers to…

If the users create the context themselves, which makes sense, then why do you ask for 'US dollars only please'? Because you want to use this data yourself?

A similar remark: "annual salary". The context might include part-time folks, consultants paid per hour, etc. where comparisons of annual salary are much less informative than just $/h.

You don't even need the app to discern between annual and dollar per hour, to the app it's just a number. Actually even an uniterpreted string would do.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by pavel_lishin »

Cushman wrote: post #77
Sukotto wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are unemployed or self-employed then the question isn't really for you (though the answers certainly are). You're not acting in your own best interest. If you accept that the site's trying to give you ammunition in the form of more accurate information. Then you hurt yourself (and everyone else) by putting in an absurdly high or low number you skew the results away from the actual market value. If it skews hig…

As I understand it it's a salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and I put in my salary. Seems pretty straightforward to me. I'm not really expecting that anyone is seriously going to try to use the average salary of HN users for negotiation purposes. But even assuming they were, it appears there are at least a few others who are in my boat. That's relevant information, yes?

You are unemployed; therefore you have no salary.

This is somewhat akin to placing "yes, please" under the "sex" column of a questionaire.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by pavel_lishin »

mesmerized wrote: post #29

What's stopping someone from sending a link, then entering a bunch of fake salaries (by clearing cookies), to find out co-worker's salary (not one of the ones you entered, though they may all appear legit).

Any system can be abused.

I guess one way of combating this is that when you receive an invitation, ask your other coworkers if they received them as well, and ask them to participate. That way, at least the initial wrongdoer wouldn't be able to peg the salary to the person.

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