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Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by InafuSabi »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #36
Pfhreak wrote: post #10

As someone who has periodically streamed, consider dropping a few chat messages when you land. Twitch's metrics are slow to update and it is not always clear when someone is watching.

As a streamer I would say that a streamer should never act as if no one is watching. Many viewers never feel like chatting and that's fine. And sometimes people will watch vods after the fact. For myself, I purposely disable the metrics so that my mood can't be affected by viewership numbers.

Proper attitude. I run radio based streams. That means I always have to work with 100% concentration on _mixer_ / twitch. Even though I leave the metrics on, the work is always done for a (fictional) audience, otherwise the quality of my recording suffers (I record all my live session with audacity)

I stream for artistic expression, BTW so an audience or not matters little

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by OJFord »

beshrkayali wrote: post #86
geddy wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember quite a while back, Chat Roulette song improv was a big thing. It was the guy in the hoodie - PianoChatImprov on Youtube. I just looked it up and, wow, that was 10 years ago. This was also before Chat Roulette became nothing but dongs.

the question is, would it be possible to implement something like that in a way where dong shows don't take over? What is it exactly that turned chat roulette into that?

> What is it exactly that turned chat roulette into that?

Being on the internet?

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by chongli »

heed wrote: post #89
formalsystem wrote: post #45

twitch is one of the platforms where I feel like I've struggled the most to get viewers. just playing my main game like Dota wasn't too productive since I'm not a pro or super hot so my value proposition there isn't too compelling. Instead I've been trying to focus more on streaming myself programming and learning new scientific or game programming libraries and have been enjoying it quite a bit. My viewer count is v…

That’s because discovery on Twitch is almost non-existent. If you want to grow your Twitch channel start on YouTube, advertise your twitch channel there, and slowly try to convert people.

Yeah. Generally the way to become established on Twitch (without relying on YouTube) is to become part of a pre-existing community as a viewer and subscriber yourself, and then to receive raids from established streamers in that community.

Most of my viewing experience is with retro game speedrunning and the specific advice for that community is to pick a game you want to learn and follow the best players. The world record holders and their friends tend to be very happy to share advice and tips for their game with new runners. This is great because it helps you establish a relationship with them without being “that guy” who is just there to try and promote his streaming channel (those people are universally reviled and often banned for unsolicited promotion). Instead, if you’re a legitimate member of the community, learning and improving at the game, then the big streamers may be happy to send you a raid.

It’s very much not a get rich quick scheme. It’s more like moving to a small town. You need to put yourself out there and ingratiate yourself to the community in order to gain trust and become a respected member. The above advice should be largely adaptable to any form of streaming with an established community.

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by fenwick67 »

lovehashbrowns wrote: post #90
fenwick67 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > Most the big streamers got to where they are by view botting, the "fake it til you make it" approach. > I'm sorry but this is not true. How can you possibly claim you know that most big streamers never used bots or bought views? None of them would ever tell a Twitch employee if they did. If you had the capacity to detect all bots then there would be zero botting on the platform, which is certainly not the case.

How are you going to question a Twitch employee but not someone making the absurd claim that "most of the big streamers got to where they are by view botting"? The bigger streamers that weren't already famous have had followings for many years, going from few viewers to the thousands they get now. Saying most of them view botted is pretty wild. I'd love to see some actual evidence..

Buying follows is an open secret on Twitter and Instagram, and I personally had my twitch credentials stuffed to have my account follow accounts with 1 video and thousands of followers

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

#95

Post by dec0dedab0de »

beshrkayali wrote: post #86
geddy wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember quite a while back, Chat Roulette song improv was a big thing. It was the guy in the hoodie - PianoChatImprov on Youtube. I just looked it up and, wow, that was 10 years ago. This was also before Chat Roulette became nothing but dongs.

the question is, would it be possible to implement something like that in a way where dong shows don't take over? What is it exactly that turned chat roulette into that?

* would it be possible to implement something like that in a way where dong shows don't take over? *

Having an option to mark yourself as NSFW, and to decide if you want to see NSFW cams would go a long way.

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by xmprt »

hassaanm wrote: post #80

I made a similar site as part of a hackathon at Twitch: https://twitchraids.com The idea is to raid random channels together with everyone on the site. Channels are randomly selected and rotate every 5 minutes, and the channel selection function gives preference to smaller streamers. Users vote on which channel to raid next.

Which TwitchCon did you go to? I had the exact same idea but my team ended up going with something else. It's cool that you ended up actually hosting it after the hackathon ended. Do you know how many people are still using it?

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by ViViDboarder »

NickBusey wrote: post #88
thanatropism wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you broadcast yourself coding? Is it terribly CPU (ie battery life) or network intensive?

It's pretty common, I do it (shameless plug https://www.twitch.tv/nickbusey ) My stream setup is open source on GitLab https://gitlab.com/NickBusey/CodingStream Here's an article I used in my early days to help get going https://medium.com/@suzhinton/my-twitch-live-coding-setup-b2...

I realize it wasn’t yours, but that’s a really good write up! Thanks for sharing.

I’ve considered doing counting like this before but didn’t really know where to get started.

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by formalsystem »

chongli wrote: post #93
heed wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s because discovery on Twitch is almost non-existent. If you want to grow your Twitch channel start on YouTube, advertise your twitch channel there, and slowly try to convert people.

Yeah. Generally the way to become established on Twitch (without relying on YouTube) is to become part of a pre-existing community as a viewer and subscriber yourself, and then to receive raids from established streamers in that community. Most of my viewing experience is with retro game speedrunning and the specific advice for that community is to pick a game you want to learn and follow the best players. The world…

This is great advice, contribute to various Discord and Slack communities and once you establish trust start plugging your stream and even have various people from the community as guests. I guess key is to give give give before you expect people to reward you with their attention.

Re: Show HN: Twitch Roulette – Find and chat with streamers who are streaming alone

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Post by formalsystem »

thanatropism wrote: post #84
formalsystem wrote: post #45

twitch is one of the platforms where I feel like I've struggled the most to get viewers. just playing my main game like Dota wasn't too productive since I'm not a pro or super hot so my value proposition there isn't too compelling. Instead I've been trying to focus more on streaming myself programming and learning new scientific or game programming libraries and have been enjoying it quite a bit. My viewer count is v…

How do you broadcast yourself coding? Is it terribly CPU (ie battery life) or network intensive?

I have a Desktop PC that I've built, AMA if you want to get started. I have a 32 core Ryzen CPU so I'm really well equipped.
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