I'm Jenny, and I am currently the Growth and Social Media Manager in Ameelio. We've been working hard to reach out to different organizations that work with incarcerated people and immigration detention centers to further spread the influence we can have, alleviating burdens - financial, emotional, and physical - that family members feel. The Ameelio Ambassadors has been a great help towards spreading the word. They…
You should get in touch with Unloop in Seattle - they teach programming in prison and have a small freelance dev shop staffed by people who went through their program. https://www.un-loop.org/
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#92This is just Zoom. The partners and sponsors almost all conspicuously mention Zoom meetings and Zoom Celebrations on their websites. Especially because of the major WSJ story today on Zoom and the origins of the Coronavirus, it seems very implausible that anyone mentions Zoom anymore overtly without having an agenda. The co-founders are all from Yale, and have the best of intentions, but don't realize they have to so…
While many of us are Yale students, we come varying backgrounds. I'm a Nigerian-American (born in Chicago, spent my early childhood in Nigeria, and now live in CT). Gabe is Brazilian, Jesse is from Iowa, etc. We all connected on this project because we are committed to social innovation and want to do all we can to stop the exploitation of loved ones of incarcerated people, who are disproportionately low-income.
Re data and prediction: scholars of incarceration lament the dearth of data on the criminal justice system.
NYTimes- “Missing: Criminal Justice Data” (https://nyti.ms/2FUEkDq)— “Criminal justice data in this country is hard to come by. It can be messy and difficult to understand. And in many cases, the data doesn’t exist at all...Missing data is at the core of a national crisis.”
John Pfaff- Locked In (https://amzn.to/3aZYB5X)— “Perhaps even more troubling, there are some issues where we simply have no data, where almost nothing at all is gathered.”
Elected officials are creating criminal justice policies, that impact millions, with limited information. We want to inform better policymaking using data analytics. The folks are Measure of Justice (https://measuresforjustice.org/about/overview) are leading way, and we want to help where we can.
Scholars of algorithmic bias have convinced me that algorithmic risk assessment has disparate impact on minority groups, so I’m personally not in favor of these tools (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/1/eaao5580; https://ssrn.com/abstract=3257004). We will not be doing any risk assessment etc. Using past data to better understand and predict how the state prison populations might change in the future could yield insightful information.
In my home state of CT, “between 2008 and 2018, the state prison population has fallen by 30 percent, and the minority prison population has dropped by 32 percent” (https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2019/02/13/ct-prison-populati...). The article also notes:
“Marc Pelka, undersecretary of the Connecticut Office of Policy and Management’s Criminal Justice Policy and Planning Division, told the News that while it is “hard to pinpoint a single policy or trend,” he named a few reasons for the decline in state prison population.”
Understanding why states like CT have been effective in reducing their prison population could help other states do the same. I really appreciate the feedback, we will make our language around data analytics more clear. Please keep the comments coming!
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
First I'd like to thank you for the comment. You made me realize a mistake I made in mentioning JPay and Securus when I meant to say Global Tel Link and Securus. As far as pushback from other companies, we haven't received any so far. There's nothing they can really do besides make their services more appealing. Currently, with Letters (our first app), it allows users to sign up, add their contacts (inmates), and the…
You have to give wardens/politicians money to put any kind of technology in their prisons, so free video chat/messaging isn't going to happen unless some benevolent billionaire prince is funding you. However you could do some kind of distance education via letters, remember math can be learned with just pen and paper and not the kind of shit we learn in highschool but the Terrence Tao Analysis from scratch kind. Ther…
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#94Lead developer here. Ameelio is a non-profit that's building free technology to transform corrections and criminal justice. We've recently launched Letters, our first application that lets loved-ones of incarcerated individuals send physical mail for free. Currently, the situation is that two corporations own communication throughout the prisons and jails in the U.S (Global Tel Link and Securus). They charge ridiculo…
"Currently, the situation is that two corporations own communication throughout the prisons and jails in the U.S (JPay and Securus)." Did you experience any issues trying to get into this space? Any push back from the companies mentioned or from any of the state prison systems? What a great idea! That testimonial from the blind person on your home page is very moving.
The incumbent providers have contracts, long-term ones with revenue shares for the management of the facilities, so what is Ameelio's route around that? Is it the ubiquity (to whatever degree) of Internet access? Is it the savings of digital letters printed locally? I can't tell.
There are relatively set-in-stone relationships here, and I would love to know what their chisel is. I would also accept that it's a trade secret or other special sauce, which I accept as a legitimate strategy when dealing with bribe- and kickback-driven institutions.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
"One type of pushback we can receive is from facilities themselves. One facility returned one of our letters and said that you can't have anything in the letter that could be some form of encrypted message or symbol. In our case, that happened to be the bar code used by the third party service to manage their letters." Here is example of bad scenario which I sincerely hope will never happen. Anything containing image…
The steganography your talking about really only works in digital formats, not printed in this case "code messages" can be just as easily hidden in the text of the letter (in fact probably easier) then in the printed out image
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> We are 100% committed to keeping our tools free for users > Website: "All our users can send unlimited free letters" But then in your landing page screenshot: > To celebrate Ameelio's launch, you have unlimited letters! As our community grows, you'll have access to 4 free letters a month. So which one is it? To say it's a "free communication platform" with "unlimited free letters" but then to limit it to 4 letters/…
To be honest the 4 letter cap comment is just in case we run out of funding and is subject to change depending on the situation. This isn't some free trial exploit. Nothing we do is disingenuous. We are 100% committed to keeping our tools free for users. I know the world is filled with businessmen trying to take your money, but that's not us. But thank you very much for pointing this out. We need to make sure we're m…
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The prices charged by Securus and other 3rd party services provided to jails are ridiculous and predatory. Competition would be great but I’m not sure they will allow it to happen without a fight. They make so much money and portions of that money are shared with the jails the pessimist in me doesn’t see there ever being a free option for instant communication. I appreciate the effort and I think this space has a lot…
What do you think are the best strategies to win that fight?
If you can show how inexpensive it is to provide the service, it becomes straightforward to punch holes in the story predatory for profits are using to profiteer from the situation.
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#98Lead developer here. Ameelio is a non-profit that's building free technology to transform corrections and criminal justice. We've recently launched Letters, our first application that lets loved-ones of incarcerated individuals send physical mail for free. Currently, the situation is that two corporations own communication throughout the prisons and jails in the U.S (Global Tel Link and Securus). They charge ridiculo…
The letter to the inmate on the front page says "I really enjoy the work we are doing, I could see myself staying here for a long time." Is it just me or is the specific wording of this not in the greatest taste? The letter also has some grammar errors. Not to detract from the good this company is doing.