Played the counting levels with my 22 month old who can count to 20. The only thing I would suggest from our experience is the cats “dressed up as ducks” was confusing for her.
Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
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Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
2 to 4 is still early in the development of physical attributes, focus, hand eye coordination, balance and what have you. Zero intentional and structured screen time seems entirely appropriate. Let them develop a physical world and interact with it before encouraging screen addicted couch potato. That will come despite best efforts later...
Do you have studies to prove that zero screen time is beneficial? I have a two year old who has learnt plenty from his screen time - between 15m to 30m per day.
Anecdata - my kid is the same. She’s 22 months and can sing all the usual songs and names her shapes and colors aloud with the videos. It’s impressive and she can count like crazy from all of it (and out of order so it’s not _just_ rote memorization in order).
We do push it at times when we are traveling or she’s sick where she will get 2-4 hours of iPad and videos along with her books. She will also pick a book over the iPad almost every time the choice is available so I am not worried (yet).
Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about "none" instead of zero?
...doesn't help either. The problem is that when you ask "How many blue cats are bouncing?" you are stating that blue cats are in existence. So there'd have to be some, not none. There'd have to be a number strictly greater than zero. So zero/none can't be the answer, or you're somehow breaking the rules of the game of logic, or how the computer game is set up. If, however, you say "How many cats are blue and bouncin…
I'd think that exercises for small children are based on more mainstream (nowadays) classical logic and ZFC (and likely with finite sets), and certainly are informal. If so, the reasoning can go as "here's a set of cats, take blue ones out of it, then take bouncing ones out of those; how many is there?".
I wondered whether what's shown on the screen is also supposed to be a complete representation of the set in question, but apparently the correct answer to every question is 0 and I don't see any cats (maybe it just doesn't work correctly here).
Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#94Nice website. I like it. Please don't use it with your kids (of 2 to 4!!). There are more than enough actual objects scuttered in your house.
agreed. this tool seems to optimize practicing logic more than enjoying logic. i think kids will find greater success in life with logic if they're taught to enjoy it before they're taught to master it. why do i think this? my dad wrote a "computer game" in 4th Dimension in the late 80s that was just randomized arithmetic problems. i had to get a certain score before i could play outside etc. i got really good at ans…
On the other hand, my parents found a computer game where arithmetic problems fell from the top of the screen and you got points for solving them quickly. My siblings and I loved it and played it whenever we were allowed - it wasn't a requirement for us to play it but a treat.
Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#95Great job, played all levels with my 4 year old and enjoyed. This can easily be an ipad app. Also my browser is lacking a tip button as this would have been a $5 tip easily.
Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
You reflected the example wrong though. Asking "How many blue cats are bouncing?" makes the presupposition that blue cats exist. "How many bottles of milk are in the fridge?" makes no presupposition of any kind. To demonstrate my point using your example: You ask: "How many of the milk bottles in the fridge are rancid?" I go to the fridge and see that there is no milk in the fridge. I now can't answer with any number…
> It's a real thing. Most people aren't arguing this. Most people are discussing colloquial understanding of language and discussion. The differences you are arguing are important in a highly specialized area of math and science. It feels like you're arguing whether an object is a Boeing 737 or an Airbus A320 when the important point is an airplane is not a car.
> The differences you are arguing are important in a highly specialized area of math and science.
Actually, I think they're arguing that it would be useful if more people understood this. In addition, the point of the game was to teach logic, not a colloquial understanding of language, which every child gets growing up anyway.
Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#97I think the digits should be arranged 0 to 9, not 1 to 9 followed by 0. Because 0 is less than 1. Also, when the correct answer is revealed, it would be great to somehow highlight the cats that are actually described by the formula. Yes, this is hard for 0. Also, the animations feel too fast to me. I find they make the whole thing stressful, somehow. ALSO, when a wrong answer is given, the question disappears! That's…
I disagree with the number arrangement bit. I'd imagine kids are learning to use the keyboard whilst using a computer's browse. 0 placement is on point with what's in front of them.
Completely agree. My 4 year old had zero (pun intended) issue playing this up to level 5 just now (using keyboard and mouse on my PC) and absolutely loved the entire thing.
Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#98Great job, played all levels with my 4 year old and enjoyed. This can easily be an ipad app. Also my browser is lacking a tip button as this would have been a $5 tip easily.
Couldn't agree more. I'd tip for this or buy it. My girl just spent a solid half hour playing it and got really into it.
Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#99So many responses from people who are not target audience. Here is one from me so you can compare. I just played this with my daughter who is 4 year old. She have found the first 4 levels easy. She was having a little bit trouble with level 5 negation and conjunction but we had to take a break since we were running for a date. She didn't have any problem with zero being on the right. She didn't have any problem with…
Seconding this. My daughter spent half hour playing this and absolutely loved it. Got up to level 5 and was doing OK but that's where she started to make a few mistakes. I agree with all your points.
Re: Show HN: Made this with my daughter to help kids ages 2 to 4 learn logic
#100So, I am older than 4 and have a PhD in a logic-related field. BUT. I have to admit that I had trouble answering some of those questions. For example: "How many blue cats are not bouncing" when there are no blue cats on the screen. The game seems to assume that the right answer is zero, but I'm not sure I concur. There is a presupposition there about blue cats being in existence and if there are none on screen, the r…
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