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Re: Show HN: Avoid editing while writing your first draft

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All the various "let me save you from editing" programs I've seen over the years have been well-meaning, but...

Okay. Look: here's an actual snippet from the first chapter of a novel I wrote a few years ago. It's not unusual for dialogue to be written like this: short paragraphs, one or two sentences each, right?

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If he’s based on Panorica or one of the half-dozen platforms that have a compact with them, he could lose his license for that. Or worse. But a lot of the private yachts berth at places where space law is more space suggestion. “Who else have you called?”

“Just you. I’m pretty sure the ship’s completely dead. The crew either got out already or didn’t make it.”

“Jesus, Randall.” She runs a hand through her hair, stopping outside the bar. Could she lose her license for following up on this? “If it’s dead, how’d you find it?”

“I picked up an emergency beacon. It stopped before we made visual contact.”

“What kind of ship is it?”

“The beacon data was for a Horizon class freighter.”

“A Horizon went missing and nobody noticed? When was this?”

“Yesterday. Maybe fifteen hours ago. I’ll send you the telemetry data.”

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Now: imagine trying to write that when every paragraph immediately disappears after you type it.

I'm sorry, but that's just not going to be helpful. Writers don't need to have their past paragraphs hidden from them; we may, in fact, need to see those lines for context. If you want to grey them out the way iA Writer does in "focus mode," fine, although I confess I remain skeptical about how much benefit that truly brings. If I'm actually typing, like I am at this moment, my eye is following the cursor and I'm focused without the extra benefit of disappearing text; if I stop typing, it's because I need to think about what I'm going to write next, and I may need to, you know, read what I've just written in order to do that. If it so happens that I notice a typo in the previous sentence -- or even, heaven forbid, the previous paragraph -- I don't actually feel like my editor is helping me if it prevents me from doing that.

And this is the problem I have with an awful lot of these "let me help you write by being super super minimal and throwing in one neat trick you haven't seen before that makes this even more minimal than those other minimal" editors. I sincerely appreciate the ideas and the work and, yes, the aesthetics. This particular one is really elegant and I don't want to take away from that. But it's part of a whole class of editors that feel, at least to me, like they're kind of solutions in search of problems.

Re: Show HN: Avoid editing while writing your first draft

#92
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "never edit while drafting" advice comes from the creative writing community. It might be of limited use in cases like technical writing, where you already might have a solid idea what the final product should look like before you start. Most people find that trying to write a novel and edit it at the same time is like baking cookies one by one.

This. Technical writing is a different species entirely. You know beforehand all of the pieces, or at least reason about them. Creativity doesn't work that way. You'll literally inventing new things. It would be like saying, "let me plan out how I will innovate." Makes no sense.

Yet... it does go like this. Art is similar: You cannot simply change a watercolor that much in the middle of painting, for example, so if I have some surrealist scene in my head, I need to at least have the concept laid out before starting to paint. I can do this with acrylic to a point and to a lesser point, oils.

Same thing with writing. Yes, you are literally making things up and inventing new things, but that doesn't mean that one is writing freely and not needing to edit along the way. Outlines give framework, and editing gives time to reflect and plan things that might not have been planned in the beginning. I'm not saying that no one works this way - just sits and writes, or does freehand paintings (I do this last one, even with watercolor, and accept a certain failure rate) - but how one works doesn't really reflect on their creativity nor how their creativity works.

Re: Show HN: Avoid editing while writing your first draft

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Technical writing is a different species entirely. You know beforehand all of the pieces, or at least reason about them. Creativity doesn't work that way. You'll literally inventing new things. It would be like saying, "let me plan out how I will innovate." Makes no sense.

Yet... it does go like this. Art is similar: You cannot simply change a watercolor that much in the middle of painting, for example, so if I have some surrealist scene in my head, I need to at least have the concept laid out before starting to paint. I can do this with acrylic to a point and to a lesser point, oils. Same thing with writing. Yes, you are literally making things up and inventing new things, but that do…

I would quote Frank O'Hara at this point, his poem "Why I Am Not A Painter" is a brilliant discussion of stimulus and revision across art forms.

Re: Show HN: Avoid editing while writing your first draft

#94

The advice we got from our professors when writing theses was: crack open a bottle of fine whisk{e}y [0], get a couple glasses in, write (while keeping your drink topped of course) until writing is a serious challenge, edit the next morning in the harsh and sober light of day [1]. Works a treat, even if you liver may not fully appreciate it. [0] Whiskey may be substituted for your preferred liquor, but it is a solid…

This works for many kinds of writing. I often tell people who are trying to work on their website copy to do this. Otherwise your mind comes up with too many objections and you don't get anything done. ;-)

Re: Show HN: Avoid editing while writing your first draft

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "never edit while drafting" advice comes from the creative writing community. It might be of limited use in cases like technical writing, where you already might have a solid idea what the final product should look like before you start. Most people find that trying to write a novel and edit it at the same time is like baking cookies one by one.

I wonder what J.K. Rowling and any authors with really complicated plots would have to say about that. http://blog.paperblanks.com/2013/05/j-k-rowling-book-outline... Not that I know how the mind of a great author works, but it seems that it would be difficult to write a great story without having some solid idea of what the final product should look like before you start. Like creating a product, maybe they pivot a…

Yeah, Rowling is famous for how much she planned her novels in advance. The advice that I am passing on isn't "Don't plan your writing in advance"; it's "While you are in the drafting stage, do not pause to go back and do editing work."
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