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Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by sails »

wiremine wrote: post #72
mtarnovan wrote: post #62

This looks a bit like https://metabase.com -- anyone used both and can make a comparison?

Curious if anyone has used Metabase for serious work and can comment on it. I tried setting it up and got frustrated pretty quickly with the UX. It looks slick, but the mental model was confusing...

Metabase is pretty good if you have a nicely configured datawarehouse (Snowflake, Bigquery good options). If you are connecting metabase directly to your app database then you will probably run into issues trying to integrate another data set (say CRM data).

This is where it makes sense to ELT (extract, load, transform) everything into a datawarehouse, integrate the data there and transform as much as possible, and do the "last-mile" analysis in Metabase.

This is at least the theory, I've had reasonable results with metabase doing it this way, also nice in that the bulk of your logic sits in your datawarehouse, so a BI tool migration is less painful, and also possible to run dual analytics tools.

Checkout https://www.getdbt.com/ for more on the process.

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by justinclift »

pimterry wrote: post #41
millboh wrote: post #40

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Thanks for your feedback, we will look for some affordable code-signing certificates. Any suggestions? By the way, here is the issue link: https://github.com/ananas-analytics/ananas-desktop/issues/61

I set up code signing for an electron app relatively recently. Best option I could find was Digicert. Really sucks that this stuff is necessary nowadays and not free, but it's not so bad. That's for Windows - for Mac you'll also need an Apple developer account, afaik they're the only people who can issue certs. EDIT: Woah, I take that back. Digicert has now gone up from $74/year to $474/year, which is crazy. I now al…

There aren't any great options, but if it helps we (sqlitebrowser.org) went with Certum:

https://en.sklep.certum.pl/data-safety/code-signing-certific...

We chose the "Open Source Code Signing" option, with it being stored on a physical keyfob thing (eg not "in the cloud"). Total cost, including the new key fob and super expensive, week+ delay, mandatory postage (!) was around 135 Euro.

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by wiremine »

mazameli wrote: post #82
wiremine wrote: post #72

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Curious if anyone has used Metabase for serious work and can comment on it. I tried setting it up and got frustrated pretty quickly with the UX. It looks slick, but the mental model was confusing...

Sorry to hear that (I'm the UX guy at MB). Would appreciate your thoughts/feedback on any specifics you want to share. Thanks!

Thanks for following up! Here's some of things that tripped me up:

1. The lack of in depth docs.

2. The set up and usage of metrics was focusing. This was the main use case I was hoping Metabase could help me with, and it felt like an addon feature.

3. For whatever reason, managing dashboards was really confusing, and the UI [1] didn't seem to match the docs.

[1] I was using the mac version.

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by ZeroCool2u »

kfk wrote: post #59
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #56

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Alteryx would be my guess.

Interesting enough both ananas here and Alteryx use a declarative approach. Alteryx is using XML and Ananas YAML

The YAML approach seems far more appealing to me honestly, though I'm sure XML was a sane choice at the time.

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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maximente wrote: post #65
pmelendez wrote: post #35

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That's a bit bold statement... In Spanish is Piña and in Portuguese is Abacaxi, but a good amount of laguanges does call it ananas

> In Spanish is Piña equally as bold, and also incorrect: ananá is what you'll hear in Argentina, possibly elsewhere.

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Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by tlrobinson »

fegul wrote: post #90
tlrobinson wrote: post #83

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(I work at Metabase, and am working on the joins feature as we speak) As getsauce mentioned, we're adding joins to the next release, as well as essentially subqueries in what we're calling the "notebook". That should unlock a lot of power. AMA.

Big fan of Metabase, thanks for all your work! I've always been curious if there is a feature in the works for charting or displaying comparisons across defined timespans (e.g. total page views this week vs. last week)

Thanks!

We have a "trend" visualization: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg54b6owdatznmm/Screenshot%202019-... Is that like what you're looking for?

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by fegul »

tlrobinson wrote: post #98
fegul wrote: post #90

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Big fan of Metabase, thanks for all your work! I've always been curious if there is a feature in the works for charting or displaying comparisons across defined timespans (e.g. total page views this week vs. last week)

Thanks! We have a "trend" visualization: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg54b6owdatznmm/Screenshot%202019-... Is that like what you're looking for?

That certainly looks like it's in the right direction, I'll re-familiarize myself with the docs again since it's been a little while

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by llampx »

mazameli wrote: post #82
wiremine wrote: post #72

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Curious if anyone has used Metabase for serious work and can comment on it. I tried setting it up and got frustrated pretty quickly with the UX. It looks slick, but the mental model was confusing...

Sorry to hear that (I'm the UX guy at MB). Would appreciate your thoughts/feedback on any specifics you want to share. Thanks!

Why do charts with dates on the x-axis not show up correctly? For example the chart will show Jan 2019 on the label underneath a column that is actually Feb 2019. This is confusing to new users and drives experienced users up the wall. Currently the only thing that fixes it is to convert the axis to categorical.
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