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Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by kobble »

coldtea wrote: post #84
kobble wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough. Didn't mean to come across as insisting. There was much debate about the term track. Project is closer, but has problems also. Cheers.

Yeah, don't want to come of as bullish. Just that I agree with the general sentiment on this comments, that this terminology probably overcomplicates things for no reason. Better to slightly misuse/expand an existing know term like projects or notebooks to cover more than it does now, than to invent a new term that covers all the meanings that apply, but whose meaning is initially unfamiliar to people.

We appreciate all the comments. We'll think about this.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by keithnz »

matt4077 wrote: post #6

> Kobble is the only app available where you own all of your data. What? I find that highly unlikely. In what way do I not "own" the texts I write in–for example–Apple's Notes.app? And what is even meant by "own"? Even for something like Facebook, I'm pretty sure that I still own the copyright for texts I write in their app.

owning it by being in another web app? I feel this is solving a problem I don't really have

reality is, github is a website, kobble is a website, there's no real difference in "owning" other than what those websites grant us in their Terms and Conditions.

weird.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by pjungwir »

kobble wrote: post #24
Etheryte wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you choose obscure names instead of something everyone could understand right away? To me, it seems "channels" are just "groups"/"categories"/"folders" and "tracks" are just "notes"? The fact that you need to explain it is a good indicator that it's unnecessarily complex.

The model is very similar to other popular apps, like YouTube or Spotify. Instead of organizing songs or videos into channels, you organize tracks.

People don't seem to like your names, and perhaps the names do need more work, but I wanted to commend you for trying. Whenever I see something named "Group" I cringe a little, because it is so abstract and meaning-free. It is barely better than names like "Thing" and "Entity". So I appreciate your attempt to be more concrete and creative!

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by mixrm0n »

kobble wrote: post #13
coalaber wrote: post #3

This feels excessively complicated to me. what's a track? what's a channel? why do I need filenames for everything? why does it take 3 minutes for a new user to write a single line of 'note' ? a beautiful notes app (to me) would be one where you start with writing a note

Everything in Kobble can be shared. Channels are there to organize tracks - your tracks and tracks from other users. Kobble can be used for much more than just note taking. It's meant to share meaningful content with other users. A track is like a project, and channels make it easy to share them.

In playing around with your app, I intuitively kept clicking the right arrow on the slides and completely missed the additional info on the ORGANIZING YOUR DATA slide on the first go around. Sometimes that the only shot you have to convey a message and explain your Item/Track/Channel system in further detail. I feel like that could use a "(Learn more below.)" or something like what's found on the first slide.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by throwaway55523 »

pjungwir wrote: post #93
kobble wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The model is very similar to other popular apps, like YouTube or Spotify. Instead of organizing songs or videos into channels, you organize tracks.

People don't seem to like your names, and perhaps the names do need more work, but I wanted to commend you for trying . Whenever I see something named "Group" I cringe a little, because it is so abstract and meaning-free. It is barely better than names like "Thing" and "Entity". So I appreciate your attempt to be more concrete and creative!

This is such an important point. I'm living with a generic "group" feature in a SaaS app and it's a nightmare. It's been used by numerous clients for totally different things. These are the weeds that will choke your garden.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by cyberferret »

throwaway55523 wrote: post #95
pjungwir wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't seem to like your names, and perhaps the names do need more work, but I wanted to commend you for trying . Whenever I see something named "Group" I cringe a little, because it is so abstract and meaning-free. It is barely better than names like "Thing" and "Entity". So I appreciate your attempt to be more concrete and creative!

This is such an important point. I'm living with a generic "group" feature in a SaaS app and it's a nightmare. It's been used by numerous clients for totally different things. These are the weeds that will choke your garden.

...or they will be the very thing that frees up your users to use them in creative ways without feeling hemmed in to a particular mindset.

We have the concept of 'tags' in our app, which are used by our users to delineate anything from company departments, social groups, locations, age bands etc. - basically anything they see fit. It saves us creating a mess of drop downs to try and cater for all edge cases, and they feel the freedom to think of them however they like.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by thanatropism »

So I have (and bought!) not one but two plaintext editors for iOS that save directly to Dropbox or iCloud: iWrite Pro and 1Write.

I have both apps because iWrite is my reach-for text box while 1Write opens to a Dropbox folder that has a semi-organized idea box (a "personal wiki" of sorts, but informally so).

Why do I want this instead? Versioning? I've thought of moving my ersatz "personal wiki" to Github for that, but I don't wish to make it visible to the world.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by thanatropism »

So I have (and bought!) not one but two plaintext editors for iOS that save directly to Dropbox or iCloud: iWrite Pro and 1Write.

I have both apps because iWrite is my reach-for text box while 1Write opens to a Dropbox folder that has a semi-organized idea box (a "personal wiki" of sorts, but informally so).

Why do I want this instead? Versioning? I've thought of moving my ersatz "personal wiki" to Github for that, but I don't wish to make it visible to the world.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Post by arthurlockman »

ronilan wrote: post #11

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I like this quite a bit. Thanks for sharing!
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