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Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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Somehow it boggles my mind this is not provided by Google by default. I am pretty sure plenty of people are missing tons of features because they don't know it exists. I don't think trying everything (with some latency) until you got some good answer is a nice way to discover/explore.

While I agree, I think the idea is that you don't need a list of commands in order to use the service. Instead you're encouraged to speak naturally - of course with varying results but I guess Google sees this as favorable compared to suggesting a manual/reference is needed.

Speaking naturally results in the thing doing something completely different from what I wanted. Once that happens a few times, I give up and stop wasting my time.

For people like me, without documentation it's just another pile of garbage on the side of the road.

Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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> This is part of a larger trend I've noticed where large tech companies use their market share to bully their users into adopting their other applications. It baffles me how any one approves these ideas. Isn't it pretty short sighted to cripple your own product, to break features that users love to promote another unloved product? Isn't that arrogant? I hope this trend passes, but my guess is that it effectively dri…

I'd like you to give me one example where a Google app bypasses the intents system and uses another specific Google app for a task. One example.

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Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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Why this confusing UI (click to do what actually?) for the simple info that is there? Or am I missing something interesting by using Firefox?

I'm using Firefox too. I found the UI to be bizarre, but the content was so helpful I just tried to ignore it. This site finds a place on my bookmarks bar despite its horrific UI.

Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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I think this is great, and at the same time highlights a usability problem with conversational interfaces: we don't know how to make them discoverable. Google attempts to do this by letting you stumble upon commands, but I don't think that is good enough. I don't think tutorials are either, but I don't have any solid alternatives.

This is the most frustrating part of owning an android smartwatch. I have no idea what it can do. I don't understand why I can't just swipe right and view a list of all the voice commands. Seems like a simple enough solution. Finding tips on random websites and forums or through trial and error (where you look like an idiot barking non-existent commands into your wrist) is not productive.

Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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Well, I disagree with you on disabling javascript being an "essential security precaution", but that's another discussion... As for the rest, there's also the point that the author probably wouldn't have done this that way. That seems like a dumb sentence, but hopefully i can explain it. This kind of thing isn't going to make any money, even with ads this is an niche thing and would probably end up making him tens of…

> I know that many disagree with me, but for most "web apps" progressive enhancement is dead … Javascript is part of the platform It shouldn't be, it really shouldn't be. The web should be about GETing, PUTting, POSTting & DELET(E)ing resources (i.e., documents); it shouldn't about GETting executables. There's definitely a place in the world for a well-thought out universal executable platform, but HTTP + HTML + CSS…

>It shouldn't be, it really shouldn't be.

See, but why shouldn't it be?

Would it be valid for me to say that python shouldn't be a part of linux? That people should stop using python on their linux command line tools because linux is really about C.

The web is an application platform, and I still haven't heard any convincing arguments as why we shouldn't use it as one besides "Because it wasn't one in the past".

I agree that progressive enhancement is a good thing, and in a perfect world every application would start with the bare minimum and work up the "technology tree" to get to the latest and greatest, but in the real world of limited time and money that's almost never possible. Having something that's not perfect is better than not having anything at all.

Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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Is anybody else having trouble using Ok Google for sending texts? It recognizes the recipient alright but stops dictation way too early, even if I pause just for a second. Then it doesn't seem possible to resume dictation. Does anybody know how to get around this? (Android 5.1.1)

ask to send a message, then wait for it to prompt for who, and after that wait for a prompt for what you want it to say. I use that function while on my motorcycle through my helmet a bunch, and breaking it up like that allows me to confirm/deny each step because often the wind noise makes it impossible to hear what i said.

I find that sometimes, after the "OK Google, send a text to $PERSON" my watch will ask whether it should be to their mobile, work or home landline. A way to set it to only send text messages to mobiles would make sense but I can't find any way of doing that.

Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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Does it work on screen readers? I mean the site is trying to explain voice control, after all.

yes actually it does! It needs some work with focusable things, I needed to use the special navigation keys (I tested with ChromeVox on the desktop) to get to the lists on the left and right, and to click on anything i had to use the special "click" keybinding instead of pressing enter, but it's 100% usable. On android it works great, about the same as any other website or app (i used the android accessibility screen…

Note this doesn't work with VoiceOver at all.

Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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I'd like you to give me one example where a Google app bypasses the intents system and uses another specific Google app for a task. One example.

calendar I used to be able to use other calendars. Now it ignores my other calendars, and insists on using google calendar.

I installed another calendar app just to test this: https://i.imgur.com/nlsHUGr.jpg

Re: Show HN: “OK Google” – Explore Google Now voice commands

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yes actually it does! It needs some work with focusable things, I needed to use the special navigation keys (I tested with ChromeVox on the desktop) to get to the lists on the left and right, and to click on anything i had to use the special "click" keybinding instead of pressing enter, but it's 100% usable. On android it works great, about the same as any other website or app (i used the android accessibility screen…

Note this doesn't work with VoiceOver at all.

When you say it doesn't work at all, what do you mean? There's no reason it won't read at least the "ok google" at the top of the screen, but navigating around probably won't work here.

I don't have a mac on hand right now, but VoiceOver relies heavily on tags, so i'd bet the problem is that he is using divs for everything.

Make each thing on the left render in an and use header elements at the top of each block of commands and it should work fine.

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