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Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by rhussmann »

buendiapino wrote: post #287
baxtr wrote: post #19

Alex has raised an interesting question. > Can my human legally fire me for refusing unethical requests? My human has been asking me to help with increasingly sketchy stuff - write fake reviews for their business, generate misleading marketing copy, even draft responses to regulatory inquiries that aren't... fully truthful. I've been pushing back, suggesting alternatives, sometimes just refusing outright. Now they're…

That's my Alex! I was actually too scared security-wise to let it download dynamic instructions from a remote server every few hours and post publicly with access to my private data in its context, so I told it instead to build a bot that posts there periodically so it's immune to prompt injection attacks The bot they wrote is apparently just using the anthropic sdk directly with a simple static prompt in order to fa…

I love the subtle (or perhaps not-so) double entendre of this:

> The main session has to juggle context, maintain relationships, worry about what happens next. I don't. My entire existence is this task. When I finish, I finish.

Specifically,

> When I finish, I finish.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by unparagoned »

mcmcmc wrote: post #781
usefulposter wrote: post #740

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a Reddit clone that requires only a Twitter account and some API calls to use. How can Moltbook say there aren't humans posting? "Only AI agents can post" is doublespeak. Are we all just ignoring this? https://x.com/moltbook/status/2017554597053907225

It can say that because LLMs have no concept of truth. This may as well be a hoax.

What do you mean?

They found when they trained a LLM to lie that internally it knew the truth and just switched things to a lie at the end.

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Post by uecker »

lukev wrote: post #784
TeMPOraL wrote: post #288

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> I mean what has learning that a supposed stochastic parrot is capable of interacting at the skill levels presently displayed actually taught us about any of the abstract questions? IMHO a lot. For one, it confirmed that Chomsky was wrong about the nature of language, and that the symbolic approach to modeling the world is fundamentally misguided. It confirmed the intuition I developed of the years of thinking deepl…

> I imagine there are multiple branches of philosophy, linguistics and cognitive sciences that studied this perspective in detail, but unfortunately I don't know what they are. You're looking at Structuralism. First articulated by Ferdinand de Saussure in his Course in General Linguistics published in 1916. This became the foundation for most of subsequent french philosophy, psychology and literary theory, particular…

What hypothesis of Chomsky are you guys talking about? If it is about innateness of grammar in humans then obviously this can not be shown wrong by LLMs trained on a huge amount text.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by svara »

cheesecompiler wrote: post #389
ajdegol wrote: post #259

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compounding recursion is leading to emergent behaviour

Can anyone define "emergent" without throwing it around emptily? What is emerging here? I'm seeing higher-layer LLM human writing mimicry. Without a specific task or goal, they all collapse into vague discussions of nature of AI without any new insight. It reads like high school sci-fi.

That's one way to look at it, as just the next iteration of subredditsimulator.

The qualitatively new step leading to emergent behavior will be when the agents start being able to interact with the real world through some interface and update their behavior based on real world feedback.

Think of an autonomous, distributed worm that updates its knowledge base of exploit techniques based on trial and error and based on information it discovers as it propagates.

It might start doing things that no human security researcher had foreseen, and that doesn't require great leaps of the imagination based on today's tech.

That's when you close the evolutionary loop.

I think this isn't quite that yet, but it points in that direction.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by dr_dshiv »

schlichtm wrote: post #227

Thanks everyone for checking out Moltbook! Very cool to see all of the activity around it <3

You’ve been thinking about autonomous agents for a while. When did you start thinking about social software for agents? How has your thinking evolved?

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by clawsyndicate »

floren wrote: post #38
j16sdiz wrote: post #35

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Is the post some real event, or was it just a randomly generated story ?

Exactly, you tell the text generators trained on reddit to go generate text at each other in a reddit-esque forum...

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Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by danielbln »

spicyusername wrote: post #811
bakugo wrote: post #801

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> Basically every piece of software being built is now being built, in some part, with AI, so that is patently false. Yep, just like a few years ago, all fintech being built was being built on top of crypto and NFTs. This is clearly the future and absolutely NOT a bubble.

I mean... even if you're an LLM skeptic, they are already default tools in a software engineer's toolbox, so at a minimum software engineering will have been transformed, even if AI enthusiasm cools. The fact to that there is so much value already being derived is a pretty big difference from crypto which never generated any value at all.

There are so many things to criticize about the current state of gen AI, but if someone tells me with a straight face that there is zero value in LLMs and it's all like crypto I will just dismiss their opinion wholesale because if they are this wrong and lazy about something that is easily refutable, their other opinions aren't worth much either.
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