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Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by dash2 »

thomasm6m6 wrote: post #598
pseudosavant wrote: post #342

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This is one of the greatest LLM creations I've ever seen. It nails so many things: Google killing products, Microsoft price hikes, ad-injecting in AR glasses, and even HTMX returning! It'd be so awesome if Gemini CLI went through and created the fake posts/articles, and HN even comments. Perhaps a bit much to ask of it?

Here it is: https://sw.vtom.net/hn35/news.html I downloaded the original article page, had claude extract the submission info to json, then wrote a script (by hand ;) to run feed each submission title to gemini-3-pro and ask it for an article webpage and then for a random number of comments. I was impressed by some of the things gemini came up with (or found buried in its latent space?). Highlights: "You’re probably…

Jepsen:

'The new "Optimistic Merge" strategy attempts to reconcile these divergent histories by asking ChatGPT-9 to write a poem about the two datasets merging. While the poem was structurally sound, the account balances were not.'

That's genuinely witty.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by malnourish »

pea wrote: post #589
abustamam wrote: post #359

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I mean Bard barely lasted a year. Arguably Gemini is just a rebrand of Bard, but Bard is still dead.

Didn't they also just shut down Vertex and Gemini APIs to launch a new unified API this week?

I can't find any news about this. That's not wholly unusual given the context. Do you have a link?

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by articlepan »

jll29 wrote: post #825

AI professor here. I know this page is a joke, but in the interest of accuracy, a terminological comment: we don't call it a "hallucination" if a model complies exactly with what a prompt asked for and produces a prediction, exactly as requested. Rater, "hallucinations" are spurious replacements of factual knowledge with fictional material caused by the use of statistical process (the pseudo random number generator u…

I agree with your first paragraph, but not your second. Models can still hallucinate when temperature is set to zero (aka when we always choose the highest probability token from the model's output token distribution).

In my mind, hallucination is when some aspect of the model's response should be consistent with reality but is not, and the reality-inconsistent information is not directly attributable or deducible from (mis)information in the pre-training corpus.

While hallucination can be triggered by setting the temperature high, it can also be the result of many possible deficiencies in model pre- and post- training that result in the model outputting bad token probability distributions.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by rat9988 »

nunodonato wrote: post #834
jll29 wrote: post #825

AI professor here. I know this page is a joke, but in the interest of accuracy, a terminological comment: we don't call it a "hallucination" if a model complies exactly with what a prompt asked for and produces a prediction, exactly as requested. Rater, "hallucinations" are spurious replacements of factual knowledge with fictional material caused by the use of statistical process (the pseudo random number generator u…

wouldn't the right term be 'confabulation'?

No, still too negatively connoted. "Writes" "Predicts" "caricatures" is closer.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by Olreich »

bluejay2387 wrote: post #837
jll29 wrote: post #825

AI professor here. I know this page is a joke, but in the interest of accuracy, a terminological comment: we don't call it a "hallucination" if a model complies exactly with what a prompt asked for and produces a prediction, exactly as requested. Rater, "hallucinations" are spurious replacements of factual knowledge with fictional material caused by the use of statistical process (the pseudo random number generator u…

Want to second this. Asking the model to create a work of fiction and it complying isn't a pathology. Mozart wasn't "hallucinating" when he created "The Marriage of Figaro".

But many artists are hallucinating when they envisioned some of their pieces. Who's to say Mozart wasn't on a trip when he created The Marriage of Figaro.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by Timwi »

zwnow wrote: post #782
block_dagger wrote: post #778

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This common response is pretty uninteresting and misleading. They simply predict tokens? Oh. What does the brain do, exactly?

The brain has intrinsic understanding of the world engraved in our DNA. We do not simply predict tokens based on knowledge, we base our thoughts on intelligence, emotions and knowledge. LLMs neither have intelligence nor emotions. If your brain simply predicts tokens I feel sorry for you. Edit: really does not surprise me that AI bros downvote this. Expecting to understand human values from people that want to make t…

I'm not an AI bro and I downvoted mostly because of the addendum.

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by kevindamm »

rat9988 wrote: post #844
nunodonato wrote: post #834

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wouldn't the right term be 'confabulation'?

No, still too negatively connoted. "Writes" "Predicts" "caricatures" is closer.

Have we abandoned the term "generate" already?

Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Post by a96 »

GuB-42 wrote: post #608
asveikau wrote: post #205

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They also already used Debian trixie for 13.0. I wonder if it's an intended joke that they ran out of names and needed to re-use some.

There are still a lot of Toy Story characters to come by, and it doesn't seem the franchise is about to end, as long as they keep a reasonable release cycle, Debian is safe ;)

I'm kind of curious how many there are left and how long they'd last. Also, how far are they already picked and what would be the absolute last resort choices.

Someone must have done the math. (Actual plans would actually probably be up somewhere as well, given Debian orgs nature.)

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