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Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by gtaylor »

edbyrne wrote: post #18
Angostura wrote: post #15

I love the fact that you keep trying to define your own vocubulary 'Deck' etc, but always have to explain it. Best to stick with the more eaily understood term, rather than invent your own, I think. Unless you're going to try and trademark them all.

Thanks - we discussed that a lot - we were trying to make a simple 3 steps process. If we get a lot of feedback that it's confusing we'll ditch it.

I'd have to agree that the standard Docker terminology would be much preferred. Your business covers what is a pretty cutting edge, advanced concept right now. Your customers are likely to be at least somewhat understanding of the standard terminology. Your custom terminology tripped me up as well, despite having a reasonable grasp of the higher level Docker terminology.

Other than that, this looks great! I'm excited for you guys.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by jrmcauliffe »

shykes wrote: post #63

Hi everyone, Docker maintainer here. Here's my list of docker hosting services. Please correct me if I forgot one! I expect this list to get much, much longer in the next couple months. * http://baremetal.io * http://digitalocean.com (not docker-specific but they have a great docker image) * http://orchardup.com * http://rackspace.com (not docker-specific but they have a great docker image) * http://stackdock.com EDI…

http://www.enginedock.com/

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by TheMakeA »

chubot wrote: post #80
Lazare wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Emerging best practices seems to be to use Vagrant to create a great development environment, then use docker containers inside that for isolation. The two work together quite well. There's a comment from the Vagrant creator here about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6291549 In short, yes, just run a VM.

So I already use Linux almost exclusively for development, and VMs are not in my workflow at all. It seems bizarre to build a VM to build a container! Like too many levels of yak shaving.

All of my projects now include a Vagrantfile. It makes managing dependencies and creating repeatable environments simple.

The work flow is:

  $ vagrant up
  $ vagrant ssh
Editing and committing changes take place on the host. Running servers, tests, building Docker containers, etc, takes place on the guest.

You can get a new device ready for hacking on a project in minutes. Just git clone, vagrant up, grab a quick coffee.

I would definitely recommend putting VMs in your work flow.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by sntran »

guido4000 wrote: post #35

I'm not sure about the pricing yet as I can run like 5 or 10 docker instances in one DigitalOcean VM costing 5 dollars per month.

Probably the differences are your Docker instances run on dedicated server instead, and you have all the setup and preparation and maintaince made for you.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by recuter »

shykes wrote: post #65
sillysaurus2 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rise of Docker is fascinating. How did you get people to care about it initially? Did everyone immediately see it as a good idea? Congrats.

We spent 3 months going door to door, making demos to people I knew were working on similar projects or looking for one. We had a good reputation in the ops and systems engineering community because of our work on dotCloud over the last 6 years. Then we bootstrapped the open-source community with that initial group of 30-50 people willing to federate efforts. By the time the project was leaked on hacker news, the git…

So, hi there. I'd like to invest in you guys, where do I send the cheque? :)

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by TheMakeA »

dekz wrote: post #61
chubot wrote: post #59

Just curious, how are people building Docker images these days? Doesn't it only run on 64-bit Linux? I have a 32 bit Linux desktop and a Mac and haven't gotten around to installing Docker. At work I have a 64 bit Linux desktop and it seemed to be extremely picky about the kernel version so I gave up. Are people running Linux VMs on their Macs to build containers? I like the idea of this service. But both the client s…

I'm building docker images on 64-bit linux (ubuntu) and maintaining a repo of Dockerfiles, instead of uploading to the docker repository. You need a recent version of the linux kernel that supports Linux Containers. It's best if you can run Ubuntu 13 somewhere. > Are people running Linux VMs on their Macs to build containers? FreeBSD supports jails which are similar to linux containers in a way, but OSX does not. So…

OSX has seatbelts[1], which is similar to jails. They are just clunky and not documented. Chrome uses them for sandboxing browser processes[2].

[1] https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin...

[2] http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/sandbox/...

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by killerpopiller »

Matsta wrote: post #78

Hmm StackDock.com is hosted on a server at Hetzner in Germany. I don't 100% know if the containers themselves are hosted by Hetzner or not, but Hetzner is more of a budget provider than something you host production sites on. I've heard many mixed review about their network and mostly their support which isn't up to scratch. We'll see what happens but from what I see, if someone decides to abuse the service, Hetzner…

I'd actually prefer Germany, since data privacy is a law there and not spying.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by tokenizerrr »

terhechte wrote: post #77

I like the idea. Really cool. I've been researching docker a lot lately, and did most of my recent development on Core OS. I do have a question that wasn't immediately obvious: Docker maintains that one should make a container out of every application so that instead of having to install apache + mysql + php in one Ubuntu environment, you'd create three docker containers (apache, mysql, memcache) and run them togethe…

It is common to include dependencies like MySQL and Apache in the container of your application. Usually people use supervisord with a configuration file to start all the different daemons needed.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by wmf »

TheMakeA wrote: post #87
dekz wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm building docker images on 64-bit linux (ubuntu) and maintaining a repo of Dockerfiles, instead of uploading to the docker repository. You need a recent version of the linux kernel that supports Linux Containers. It's best if you can run Ubuntu 13 somewhere. > Are people running Linux VMs on their Macs to build containers? FreeBSD supports jails which are similar to linux containers in a way, but OSX does not. So…

OSX has seatbelts[1], which is similar to jails. They are just clunky and not documented. Chrome uses them for sandboxing browser processes[2]. [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin... [2] http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/sandbox/...

No amount of jails or seatbelts is going to allow you to run a Linux executable on a Darwin kernel, though.
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