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Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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Post by jbstack »

ta8903 wrote: post #65
kccqzy wrote: post #49

Feature 2 is really useful. When I land on a technical article I know chances are there will be a nice HN discussion, that may sometimes even refute the main point of the article. Feature 1 is IMO less useful. It just suggests that people are bad at window management. We didn't like overlapping windows and finding them, so we created tabs inside windows. Then we wanted to see two things at the same time, so we create…

Not sure if I agree about using windows instead of tabs. I have hundreds of tabs open, and dozens loaded, at any moment. I'm sure that it's possible to manage all the context with separate windows via a window manager, but it would have to be a REALLY good window manager to be able to provide equivalent features of tree style tabs and separate panes and whatever else that something like Sidebery provides, and it is a…

Do you really need hundreds of open tabs though? To me this suggests a workflow issue rather than a tab management problem.

I only keep tabs open that I'm actively working on right now (or am imminently about to switch back to). I regularly close tabs (and windows for that matter) that are only open because I forgot about them, or that I might use again but not until hours or days later. If I need them later I just open them again.

For me, having hundreds of things open at once just creates clutter that makes it harder to focus.

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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Post by dewey »

trash_cat wrote: post #79

Wouldn't it make sense to have it an extension? Just spontainously (without reading any instructions) I don't understand how to use this or what Userscripts Tamper or Violentmonkey is.

I prefer user scripts as I have to install one extension that can load many plugins (user scripts) instead of having one extension for every tiny website tweak.

Also much easier to glance over what a user script is doing vs. unpacking some extension and then finding the actual business logic in all the wrapper code.

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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Post by FWxqQ »

I used another approach - created a custom RSS that has both links, plus the content of the top comment in the same item. There are also a few other filters like selecting only posts that have at least 50 points. Github actions handles RSS updates every five hours, making feed generation completely free.

https://github.com/rzagreb/hackernews-top-rss

This is actually how I found this article as well

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

#86

Post by vdfs »

dagurp wrote: post #8
pluc wrote: post #5

Firefox has a new Split View that's useful for this, but you still have to left click and select open in split view (M) then click the link. You also used to be able on some browsers to craft a link that was href="tab1.html|tab2.html", no idea if that's still a thing or if it was limited to "home page" setting.

Vivaldi has included split view for years (called tiles). You can also right click a link and choose open in follower tab. This lets all links clicked in one tile open in another tile. I use this regularly on HN.

Edge also had, and now even Chrome have it.

Edge had the open links in the other split, chrome doesn't

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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Post by ta8903 »

jbstack wrote: post #81
ta8903 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if I agree about using windows instead of tabs. I have hundreds of tabs open, and dozens loaded, at any moment. I'm sure that it's possible to manage all the context with separate windows via a window manager, but it would have to be a REALLY good window manager to be able to provide equivalent features of tree style tabs and separate panes and whatever else that something like Sidebery provides, and it is a…

Do you really need hundreds of open tabs though? To me this suggests a workflow issue rather than a tab management problem. I only keep tabs open that I'm actively working on right now (or am imminently about to switch back to). I regularly close tabs (and windows for that matter) that are only open because I forgot about them, or that I might use again but not until hours or days later. If I need them later I just o…

I don't know, it works for me.

Using Sidebery panes and treestyle tabs makes it really easy to organize your tabs, I have a tree with all my tasks with relevant documentation or subtasks under each task, and I have a separate panes with all the documentation I refer constantly at the top and everything I'm reading right now at the bottom. I definitely have a lot of tabs I opened to read and never closed, but that doesn't matter since everything is arranged in an approximation of a 2D space, I still know where to look for something specific. I'm sure you feel this is weird because you've never used a tree-style tab manager, but personally I can't go back to a regular browsing setup.

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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Post by TeMPOraL »

jiehong wrote: post #73
ta8903 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if I agree about using windows instead of tabs. I have hundreds of tabs open, and dozens loaded, at any moment. I'm sure that it's possible to manage all the context with separate windows via a window manager, but it would have to be a REALLY good window manager to be able to provide equivalent features of tree style tabs and separate panes and whatever else that something like Sidebery provides, and it is a…

I think one of the point of the author is making might also be that a window manager could do just more, like managing windows as tabs as well. So that any application could have tabs, if the desktop manager would allow you to group windows as such. Same with showing a split view within such a tab as well. I think I agree with that. I could imaging that the browser containers of tabs would make a ton of sense if I co…

Windows (IE) tried to give WM visibility into tabs long ago, but this quickly revealed a problem: if tabs are now also separate windows, they enter the Alt+Tab ring, and suddenly you're Alt+Tabbing between 5 applications and dozens of open tabs. N=1, as a tab hoader, I absolutely hated it (it also made Alt+Tab itself very slow to show and cycle).

The general problem is that having WM handle in-app tabs means the WM has to support every single hare-brained idea about meaning and role of tabs that app developers invent, which is infeasible. Even with browsers - until recently, you had like just two types of tabs: regular tabs, and porn-mode (er, "private browsing") tabs. Then came "account containers" or whatever it was in Firefox. Then came tab groups, reading groups, and tons of other nonsense.

OTOH, I can dream of an ideal world where the OS manages all tabs for all apps via combination of Sidebery (better "tree style tabs") and a tiling WM.

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