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Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#81
If you didn't know, 30 under 30 doesn't have a selection process and you can literally apply and game your way into being mentioned. I honestly love the site and the UI. Great job! Would be nice to have some kind of thing for YC founders as well

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#82

Reactions to this are a bit curious. It's a satirical comment on how (presumably) initially well-intentioned younger founder-types get swept up in / by perverse incentives. The implication is that younger people who are still figuring out who they are and coming into their own may be more susceptible to these kinds of incentive traps. The first section that showcases the fraud that has been committed is something I h…

Eh, I think selection effects are more prevalent than an earnest good faith actor who got swept up into perverse incentives. Forbes 30u30 is a clarion call for the most ambitiously Machiavellian among us. They’re not subject to any different incentives than the rest of us. But they’d certainly have a higher rate of sociopaths and more garden variety Machiavellis than genpop.

That + AH or SB. Those are the kiss of death, especially when combined for the 30u30.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#84
post #79

Some of these really don't make sense. The implication that Cursor is a fraudulent company is a little weird considering they actually have real users. Like sure, is it a VS code fork with agents stapled to it? Yes. But are they on the same scale as most of the people mentioned? Ehh probably not. It reads more like a hit piece from someone with a grudge against random SF companies than anything else.

Maybe it was added after your comment but that section has a warning box calling the score a "deliberately absurd formula" and saying "this is comedy" in literal bold letters at the top. No one thinks it's serious and it's even clearly labeled as a joke just in case.

Stopped clocks...

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#85
Including "Dropout" as some significant metric is truly idiotic. Meekly going through a university degree isn't indicative of being a paragon of virtue or success, and it's a safe bet that most higher end convicted fraudsters had a degree, probably an advanced one (i.e. the large majority of politicians in that group.)

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#88
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about a fraud prison tat? Murderers have teardrops.

To be specific, not all teardrops indicate that the person is a murderer. The teardrop is specifically in remembrance of someone else who was killed. An empty teardrop indicates the death hasn’t been avenged; a half-filled one that someone else killed the killer; and only a full teardrop means that person killed the killer.

You see, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#89

Reactions to this are a bit curious. It's a satirical comment on how (presumably) initially well-intentioned younger founder-types get swept up in / by perverse incentives. The implication is that younger people who are still figuring out who they are and coming into their own may be more susceptible to these kinds of incentive traps. The first section that showcases the fraud that has been committed is something I h…

It can be very difficult to say no to these incentives when they are presented.

Committing fraud is never justified.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#90

Reactions to this are a bit curious. It's a satirical comment on how (presumably) initially well-intentioned younger founder-types get swept up in / by perverse incentives. The implication is that younger people who are still figuring out who they are and coming into their own may be more susceptible to these kinds of incentive traps. The first section that showcases the fraud that has been committed is something I h…

Eh, I think selection effects are more prevalent than an earnest good faith actor who got swept up into perverse incentives. Forbes 30u30 is a clarion call for the most ambitiously Machiavellian among us. They’re not subject to any different incentives than the rest of us. But they’d certainly have a higher rate of sociopaths and more garden variety Machiavellis than genpop.

30u30 are an artifact of networking not directly Machiavellianism/sociopathy; pals promote them (often as children of their pals) to the list.
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