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Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by gambiting »

carodgers wrote: post #38
elonisaass wrote: post #25

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Lots of examples of anti-Elon pols giving nazi salutes and no one cares. People are done pretending that your concerns are genuine. Move on.

>> People are done pretending that your concerns are genuine

I am absolutely not, and I refuse to spend any money on anything even remotely connected to Elon thanks to his actions. His nazi salutes go far beyond anything even vaguely acceptable in a public figure like him, as someone who lost family in the holocaust I don't find this "funny" or "a mistake" as some people put it. The other day someone was trying to convince me that it was some kind of heartfelt "from the heart" gesture - I've never seen someone so delusional.

Feel free to stick fingers in your ears and cover your eyes and pretend that people don't care about this or that this wasn't a nazi salute - but Musk is exactly who he is, nothing more nothing less.

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by gambiting »

weirdmantis69 wrote: post #61
drcongo wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that you're getting downvoted is a great example of why America is in the state it's in. Personally this tool looks like a useful way of booking a flight without financially funding the rise of fascism.

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Who is Mamdani? You've got mayors somewhere doing nazi salutes? Where is that?

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by inemesitaffia »

nativeit wrote: post #42
SoKamil wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m not sure why SpaceX is doing this One word: marketing.

A few more words: they’re struggling to find a niche where their ungodly expensive product makes more sense than the readily available alternatives. In this case, fair play it’s objectively better.

Starlink costs around the same as business mobile Internet.

Or see T-Mobile away

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by inemesitaffia »

oceanplexian wrote: post #18
bpodgursky wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody wants their brand associated with price gouging and half-broken in-flight credit card payment portals, and Starlink is better enough than any alternative that they can play hardball with airlines.

Delta is still stubbornly refusing to adopt Starlink. I've got status with them and have started booking with other airlines b/c it doesn't matter how nice the seats are if you can't get any work done. Most airline revenue comes from business flights, I don't think they realize how important this is to their customer base.

Starlink failed it's Delta Demo.

The article is online.

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by inemesitaffia »

Nicholas_C wrote: post #63
Hansenq wrote: post #32

Ben Thompson interviewed UA's CEO on Starlink a few months ago. Scott said: "It took time to negotiate, because we wanted to own the consumer data, and at the beginning, Starlink did, so that was hard, and then, the other thing was I wanted to let my big competitors in the United States finish their deals with other providers and get locked in so that we would — eventually, everyone’s going to have Starlink." Brillia…

I'm surprised he would admit that publicly on a podcast.

People like to brag

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by lxgr »

nativeit wrote: post #42
SoKamil wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m not sure why SpaceX is doing this One word: marketing.

A few more words: they’re struggling to find a niche where their ungodly expensive product makes more sense than the readily available alternatives. In this case, fair play it’s objectively better.

> their ungodly expensive product

Do you have any idea how much other satellite operators charge per megabyte or Mbit/s?

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by lxgr »

thinkling wrote: post #64
oceanplexian wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Delta is still stubbornly refusing to adopt Starlink. I've got status with them and have started booking with other airlines b/c it doesn't matter how nice the seats are if you can't get any work done. Most airline revenue comes from business flights, I don't think they realize how important this is to their customer base.

Delta uses Viasat and has been rolling out free wi-fi on more and more of their planes. Is it not usable?

It’s pretty good, but the latency is inherently high since Viasat is in GEO.

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by inemesitaffia »

phonon wrote: post #54
caycep wrote: post #13

looking back at the history of starlink, when was it decided to pursue this project at SpaceX? Was it always the natural evolution, i.e. cheap launches = more communications sats? Or was there a specific communications engineer/person that brought it up to Elon or Gwynne?

SpaceX originally partnered with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Wyler and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutelsat_OneWeb in 2014, then they eventually went their separate ways. https://x.com/greg_wyler/status/1116101020675977218

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrey_Satellite_Technology

You can clearly see the tech had an older history at SpaceX pre acquisition

2004

I believe they also signed up a teledesic exec Larry Williams around the same time

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by lxgr »

throwaway132448 wrote: post #67
School-Cotton wrote: post #24

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You can be disconnected wherever you want, with a bit of self control.

This misses the point. What’s nice is not that it’s just me, but that it’s everyone.

Host a “phones off” party, go to a sauna, go for a hike with friends with self control etc., but please don’t hold me hostage (connectivity wise) in a cramped metal tube for your sense of nostalgia.

Planes are just about the least pleasant space to experience involuntary offline-ness. (That said, people scrolling reels with the speaker on (or the display at brightness levels making me consider sunscreen) should immediately go on the no-fly list.)

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