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Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by stephenhuey »

khoury wrote: post #53

Rails is best as an API only, that's where it shines for me like no other tool.

In 2024, I launched for a client a Rails platform powered by Hotwire that has thousands of users. Thanks to Jumpstart Rails working out of the box with Jumpstart iOS and Android, the web app views were reused in native iOS and Android apps which drastically sped up initial launch and reduces ongoing maintenance. In other words, much less effort than if I had used Rails as an API with React or something similar.

And I've kept my eyes on Rails UI since it was in beta, and I was poking around with it a couple weeks ago and the cool thing is it could be used on a project like the one above without clashing with anything.

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by bdcravens »

justalever wrote: post #74
bdcravens wrote: post #50

It looks good, but I'll be honest, it's hard for me to consider $299/$799 if I can buy a beautiful theme off of somewhere like ThemeForest for $20 or $30 and toss it into an LLM to get the files parsed into components and templates.

That's fair. Probably not a good fit for you then. I wanted to keep the human element alive where I could with this project and I know AI will likely take all our jobs, so be it. It's solving a need for me when it comes to building ideas quickly so I figured maybe others would benefit. I'm a product designer by day and love building front-ends so it's also a passion project.

For sure, and I definitely like the visual eye of designers, which is why I'm referring to designs created by humans (and to be honest, LLMs do an amazing job of creating decent looking designs).

I guess the bigger question is even ignoring the LLM angle is why this project is worth 10-30x than another design also created by a human. I feel like the Ruby gem and integration is worth a premium, but I'm not sure that the premium matches what you're charging. I've purchased third party themes and paid someone on Upwork to "Railsify" them, leaving me with ownership of the code, and I'm pretty sure I paid less than you're charging for the team level. (I hope you don't take this as a personal attack on your business model, and simply an analysis of X vs Y)

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by stephenhuey »

dabbz wrote: post #64
liveoneggs wrote: post #60

is this daisy for rails?

Felt more like a Tailwind UI ( https://tailwindcss.com/plus ) to me

I have purchased Tailwind UI in the past, but for Rails developers, Rails UI goes the extra mile as this sentence on the JavaScript page explains:

Rails defaults use Stimulus.js and Turbo from the Hotwire ecosystem. Rails UI follows these conventions and includes pre-built Stimulus controllers for common UI patterns.

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by stephenhuey »

bdcravens wrote: post #82
justalever wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fair. Probably not a good fit for you then. I wanted to keep the human element alive where I could with this project and I know AI will likely take all our jobs, so be it. It's solving a need for me when it comes to building ideas quickly so I figured maybe others would benefit. I'm a product designer by day and love building front-ends so it's also a passion project.

For sure, and I definitely like the visual eye of designers, which is why I'm referring to designs created by humans (and to be honest, LLMs do an amazing job of creating decent looking designs). I guess the bigger question is even ignoring the LLM angle is why this project is worth 10-30x than another design also created by a human. I feel like the Ruby gem and integration is worth a premium, but I'm not sure that t…

Hello fellow Houstonian! As someone who has used Stimulus and Hotwire since the early days of Rails 7, I don't really agree that it's 10-30x, because I wouldn't compare it to some $30 theme. Having Rails-ified components (and themes) saves a lot of time so this would more than pay for itself within a few hours of consulting work on a project in the USA. I've worked on projects that had talented designers, but I also know the feeling of being a solo dev who doesn't want to figure out how to make it look and behave nicely, so for someone like that it's extra awesome!

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by rewgs »

I'm so tired of this kind of design -- that basic dev tool splash page/Tailwind-y/Shadcdn UI thing that's just seemingly everywhere nowadays. It's so basic and tired, like Material Design without any of the little bits of personality that make it decent.

Give me some life and color and personality, damn it.

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by janfoeh »

Full-stack Rails has been my day job pretty much exclusively for almost twenty years now, for both long-term projects and one-offs in agency contexts. So I am generally interested.

Two things put me off:

1) I have to hunt around to find out whether this would fit into my project, dependency and workflow-wise — turns out it doesn't. I use neither Hotwire nor Tailwind, and "latest Rails point release only" is a rather harsh restriction too.

IMO, this information should replace the fluffy marketing speak in "Who is Rails UI for?" right at the top of railsui.com/docs .

2) Absolutely every paid product should have a pricing link in the top nav, spelled out in large, friendly letters. If the landing page only implicitly implies "paid product" but is then going to be sneaky about that fact, I close the tab and do not come back; in this case, I only stuck around because it's a Show HN.

Oh, and _that_ perennial topic ... a subscription? No thank you. Especially for the kind of money you're asking, I expect a perpetual license for the version at time of purchase, plus at least a year of updates.

All together: not for me. Best of luck to you!

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by someguyiguess »

bdcravens wrote: post #50

It looks good, but I'll be honest, it's hard for me to consider $299/$799 if I can buy a beautiful theme off of somewhere like ThemeForest for $20 or $30 and toss it into an LLM to get the files parsed into components and templates.

None of this is hard to create from scratch honestly.

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by wiseowise »

justalever wrote: post #11
css_apologist wrote: post #5

ugh this looks dated even by 2016 standards when will developers learn UI actually matters bootstrap was a mistake, and lowered the bar for everyone

This you? https://flow-control.dev/

This looks infinitely better than yet another, generic web styling framework. Not sure what kind of "gotcha" you've implied here. Also, the page consumes 10x time less resources.
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