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Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by shinycode »

masihyeganeh wrote: post #57

I don't get it. Why anyone would need to use tile manager in macOS? How often do you need to have apps side by side? In most cases, just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully. Enlighten me please

I used to switch spaces but it’s worst for mental load than having everything on the same screen for big screens. I have 3 32inch screens (2 vertical on each side) and full screen apart from IDE like does not often makes sense. So splitting is like having smaller screens at all time and remove the need to find back which virtual screen has which apps. Like there is chrome on several virtual spaces if you cmd-tab on chrome it does not always choses one one you want. You have to get back manually at the screen which is cumbersome. When I use only the MacBook I tile less and use more virtual screens to organize the windows because there is less real estate. Slack, several chrome (render of code, doc, clickup etc), terminal, IDE, postman, datagrip all within a shortcut of being focused and without changing the whole screen. I guess that depends on your needs but having the equivalent of 8 screens the size of the MacBook at all time it’s really awesome and makes me really productive, r-cmd allows me to focus on app app with a shortcut so it’s really fast. No more switch between desks is a relief to find back where my windows are

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by torben-friis »

shelled wrote: post #35

This might not be sufficient for a lot of folks and I do notice sometimes a bit of struggle here and there, but for someone like me who mostly uses one widnow at a time on the Mac, or two screens when I have a external monitor setup along wiht my laptop, this thing kinda does it for me (but then I have never been a heavy "tiling" user at all) – https://support.apple.com/en-in/guide/mac-help/mchl9674d0b0/...

Is this Tahoe exclusive? I had never seen it before.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by shinycode »

masihyeganeh wrote: post #66
cdaringe wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cant think of any reason you’d want two windows in a viewport at the same time? Not one?

No no, I can't find a reason to use a highly configurable tiling manager tool for that. Something like Moom will do the job. But then I can't find a reason to have more than two windows in a viewport

That depends the size of the viewport

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by autrilla »

mgrandl wrote: post #8
atticus_ wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yabai uses native macos spaces and generally requires sip to be disabled to have a good experience(windows can't be moved between spaces without) rift is essentially aerospace but implemented in a yabai style. yabai style meaning using low level, private apis and generally focusing more on performance. whereas aerospace prides itself on only using one private api. usage wise, aerospace and rift both use a virtual wor…

Also I am wondering if you could estimate how difficult it would be to implement something like Niri? I much prefer the scrolling style tiling, but none of the MacOS WMs seem to be going that route (other than PaperWM.spoon which is not for me).

https://github.com/karinushka/paneru does that

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by ffsm8 »

dewey wrote: post #48
ffsm8 wrote: post #32

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> feel the urge to come up with frequently wrong tidbits Isn’t that a very subjective and personal preference. Why do you feel people’s reasons are not valid? You don’t have to convince everyone.

Well, the hamasho strongly implied with his comment that i3 needs a lot of configuration to be a good window manager, which he isn't willing to maintain as he grows older and wants to spend less time with the OS.

That implication is what's wrong, while his subjective experience of "I prefer Mac OSX" is obviously not wrong, the reason he's citing just don't hold up to critical analysis, hence my own statement that I wish apple enthusiasts in general would be more honest with themselves about their preferences - instead of phrasing it in a way that makes it clear that anything other then MacOS is something for juvenile people that don't have any life experience yet.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by leipert »

masihyeganeh wrote: post #57

I don't get it. Why anyone would need to use tile manager in macOS? How often do you need to have apps side by side? In most cases, just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully. Enlighten me please

Animations take too long with the swiping. Having apps on the same virtual desktop all the time.

On a larger screen: Opening a terminal alongside the editor or a browser. Or opening two browser windows when working on two documents.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by sunsetMurk »

mieses wrote: post #44
chrisweekly wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar experience and pov here -- but w/ Divvy^1 (not Rectangle). 1. https://mizage.com/divvy/

So this app you recommend is not open source and does the same thing as Rectangle?

Divvy has a pretty UI to choose the size and location of windows, and puts little buttons in the top corner of windows to change their size and location.

Rectangle provides hot keys and an icon in the menu bar to set window size and location.

I use rectangle now, but have used divvy in the past and I think is better for people who like to use their mouse vs hot keys.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by chrisweekly »

sunsetMurk wrote: post #88
mieses wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this app you recommend is not open source and does the same thing as Rectangle?

Divvy has a pretty UI to choose the size and location of windows, and puts little buttons in the top corner of windows to change their size and location. Rectangle provides hot keys and an icon in the menu bar to set window size and location. I use rectangle now, but have used divvy in the past and I think is better for people who like to use their mouse vs hot keys.

Divvy has custom hot keys! My prev comment's main point was "keyboard only FTW".

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

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Post by sgt »

tolerance wrote: post #20
fellowniusmonk wrote: post #12

I've moved from window managers to deterministic app switching with Rcmd mapped to capslock and dual cmd being tied to some window arrangement and screen swapping karabiner commands. I've switched to what I consider a french cleat system where I have task specific app/window sets and only keep a single task open at a time. Similar to how french cleat walls are for general storage but then you can arrange all tools fo…

What do you use to manage window arrangements?

Never understood this.. Window arrangements depends on what I'm doing inside those app, and where I want it. That's not a static thing. I use rcmd as well, but I usually like to keep the app I am using in the middle of the screen. Perhaps with something on the side (since I have a large 4K) as there's plenty room for it.
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