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Re: Show HN: I spent 4 months building Duolingo but for your life

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Post by arcfour »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #64
crazygringo wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's helpful, thank you. But I'm not even going to bother looking if an app can't clearly advertise its price. It just feels like a dark pattern, like they're intentionally trying to trick me from the very start. Maybe the price will turn out to be fine, but it's sure not building trust from the start.

That is the standard way to advertise your price in the App Store. What is more transparent than.. clearly posting your price?

Making the app cost X amount makes it immediately obvious how much it costs. IAP do not share this, even if they are posted publicly off in some corner.

Re: Show HN: I spent 4 months building Duolingo but for your life

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Post by bdangubic »

Dilettante_ wrote: post #71
iammjm wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think your comment is more a statement about you and your past experiences, because I vibe with "make the most of your days" in a positive way

Sounds like soulless generic ad copy that you see everywhere to me(respectfully, that's just how I read it).

carpe diem eh? never heard that before :)

Re: Show HN: I spent 4 months building Duolingo but for your life

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Post by mhb »

Dilettante_ wrote: post #71
iammjm wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think your comment is more a statement about you and your past experiences, because I vibe with "make the most of your days" in a positive way

Sounds like soulless generic ad copy that you see everywhere to me(respectfully, that's just how I read it).

That's fine. I'm not saying that particular example was great. Just that it might be better to have a positive rather than a negative "vibe".

Re: Show HN: I spent 4 months building Duolingo but for your life

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Post by iglio »

maghfoor wrote: post #6
mhb wrote: post #5

FWIW: Your initial proposition, "Your days are slipping away." is a negative framing. Maybe this is a good way of appealing to people's fears, but I thought it was depressing and was not eager to read more. An alternative could be something like "Make the most of your days".

Dude, that is so true. I think I agree with you and your reframing. Going to change it to that

You could consider running an A/B experiment, and track which treatment users engage with most.

Re: Show HN: I spent 4 months building Duolingo but for your life

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Post by theshrike79 »

jitl wrote: post #33
andrewrn wrote: post #30

Does anyone know what makes habit trackers such a trendy project in the last few years? In a world of possibilities, why do so many people make so many habit trackers?

My take is that the right workflow for people is quite varied. Everyone wants something that’s low friction and will keep them engaged but these daily behaviors are fundamentally high friction habits, so existing solutions are rarely satisfying in the long run. They are also easy to build - you need one primitive: basic text storage, although scheduled push notifications are great to have. No need to sync stuff, no s…

It's the same with mobile games.

There are only a limited number of game mechanics, people install for the theme and come back because of it.

You can take a 1:1 copy of a game, reskin it 12 different ways and 1 of those might be a hit.

For apps like this there aren't that many ways to track what you're doing, but people like different kinds of UX.

Re: Show HN: I spent 4 months building Duolingo but for your life

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Post by chrismatheson »

sebular wrote: post #61

Congratulations! Beautiful design, very simple and appealing. The onboarding flow filled me with optimism, which I appreciated. That said, I bounced off at the pricing. The $30 lifetime price isn’t something I find inherently too expensive, but I need to see if the app works for me before committing to it. It was weird that if I went forward with the free trial it would automatically put me on the exorbitant $3/week…

I actually got stuck with a bug in the flow. "What drives you" I couldn't seem to move on from this step, no button visible (maybe my old device for factor (iPhone mini 12)

But I also would have bounced on the "free trial, auto payment after" I understand the thinking around them, but for me it's just not a pattern im ever going to opt into. It feel predatory, you will probably forget and then ill get some amount of "months" off you. Like gym memberships.

Re: Show HN: I spent 4 months building Duolingo but for your life

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Post by chrismatheson »

chrismatheson wrote: post #89
sebular wrote: post #61

Congratulations! Beautiful design, very simple and appealing. The onboarding flow filled me with optimism, which I appreciated. That said, I bounced off at the pricing. The $30 lifetime price isn’t something I find inherently too expensive, but I need to see if the app works for me before committing to it. It was weird that if I went forward with the free trial it would automatically put me on the exorbitant $3/week…

I actually got stuck with a bug in the flow. "What drives you" I couldn't seem to move on from this step, no button visible (maybe my old device for factor (iPhone mini 12) But I also would have bounced on the "free trial, auto payment after" I understand the thinking around them, but for me it's just not a pattern im ever going to opt into. It feel predatory, you will probably forget and then ill get some amount of…

FWIW I have a few app ideas that are about lifestyle / personal system. and i've thought about pricing strategies etc, specifically to balance "the Ick" with what I know are proven industry standards that Do maximise conversions & profit, and what I think is more personally palatable. (no real word experience though)

I would be much more likely to convert if the "trail" as months maybe years instead of days or weeks (this is a lifestyle thing after all, if customers find it genuinely useful and buy into the system for months then $30 a year is nothing)

OR

free-trial followed by locked out. No "automatically start billing"

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