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Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Do please take a moment to consider which MPs carry the burden here. It's mainly a single flavour. Mention it on the doorstep next time. https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/1926

What a fucking mess. Labour voted in conservative policy. Conservatives voted against it. Reform, whilst all over the news for being against it, voted for it.

This is misleading. Labour's only objection was that the policy was not going far enough!

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#82

Do please take a moment to consider which MPs carry the burden here. It's mainly a single flavour. Mention it on the doorstep next time. https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/1926

I'm not sure what this recent vote is about. The original Online Safety Act was introduced and passed by the Tories in 2023 (although it's only coming into effect now, obviously.) So the Tories, who created this awful bill in the first place, are now voting against it? Clown country.

That happens all over the place, conservatives pass a time bomb bill, they lose control of congress/house, time bomb is about to become effective, they now fight to overturn it and place the blame on the current ruling folks.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#83
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clamping down on freedoms is not conservative policy. Crap like Communications Act 2003 and Ofcom has been Labour policy for decades.

The Conservatives aren't a conservative party.

Both Conservatives and Labour serve the same corporate interests. Divide et impera.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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post #51
post #33

Unintended side effect, UK MPs can now watch as much porn as they want with plausible deniability.

I don’t know about this law specifically, but every other law attacking the internet or encryption has attempted to exempt people in government. That defeats the point of the legislation since it creates a gaping wide backdoor to exploit official people, who are now the most valuable targets because of that exemption. Never mind the matter of providing a rule for the people and making the people who made the rule imm…

Have they researched how many of these "age check" companies are actually run by Russian intelligence services?

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#85
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, the UK Police wouldn't typically let you get away with "it's just a joke". This would constitute a mixture of identity theft, fake ID and misuse of computers.

It's literally just sticking the MPs name into an AI and asking for it to generate a mock ID for them. None of their real data is being used (e.g. their face, their DoB, the address) and the mock IDs wouldn't fool anyone for a second. I'd love if someone who understands the law would weigh in though

Does the AI has access to newspapers? If John Doe is a MP, then he is probably the most famous Joe Doe in the last 5 years and the AI may grab his photo from a newspaper. I don't know about the national ID in UK, but here in Argentina the national ID number is public. A lot of public documents include "John Doe (DNI 23.456.789)", and the are sites where you can search it (the DB has problems with almost coalitions, so you may get a number 23.456.789 from one "John X. Doe" that is a 50yo in Buenos Aires and another "John Y. Doe" with number 59.876.653 that is a 3yo in Ushuaia, so in many cases it's easy to guess)

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what this recent vote is about. The original Online Safety Act was introduced and passed by the Tories in 2023 (although it's only coming into effect now, obviously.) So the Tories, who created this awful bill in the first place, are now voting against it? Clown country.

That happens all over the place, conservatives pass a time bomb bill, they lose control of congress/house, time bomb is about to become effective, they now fight to overturn it and place the blame on the current ruling folks.

Except this bill was first introduced in March 2022, when the Tories hadn't imploded and there was no strong reason to expect they'd lose the next election.

It wasn't a "time bomb". They introduced this legislation because they wanted it.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#87
post #43

Chinese Netizens are very familiar with Xi Jinping's national ID number precisely for this reason :-) ID verification is enforced on all Chinese websites. People figured out they can just use Xi's ID number.

> ID verification is enforced on all Chinese websites. Is that really true? So search engines? News sites? Pseudo-anonymous discussion forums?

Yes. You need an ID to use the internet.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#88

I think this is a fun project, but I'm not sure I'd leave this up for much longer. MPs can be litigious. Especially if this is seen to be enabling things like ID fraud. Also, there are only 650 constituencies. I would pre-populate the list so when entering a new postcode, it doesn't stall waiting for AI.

The generated images are very obviously AI fakes. I don't think anyone is going to be seriously fooled by this. > I would pre-populate the list so when entering a new postcode, it doesn't stall waiting for AI. It looks like it already works like this? It was slow the first time I searched for my postcode, subsequent times have been very fast.

> I don't think anyone is going to be seriously fooled by this.

Do you think porn sites are more interested in a) correctly preventing unauthorized people from accessing their site, or b) selling as many subscriptions as they can while nominally complying with the law?

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ID verification is enforced on all Chinese websites. Is that really true? So search engines? News sites? Pseudo-anonymous discussion forums?

Yes. You need an ID to use the internet.

What about visitors?

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#90

I think this is a fun project, but I'm not sure I'd leave this up for much longer. MPs can be litigious. Especially if this is seen to be enabling things like ID fraud. Also, there are only 650 constituencies. I would pre-populate the list so when entering a new postcode, it doesn't stall waiting for AI.

The generated images are very obviously AI fakes. I don't think anyone is going to be seriously fooled by this. > I would pre-populate the list so when entering a new postcode, it doesn't stall waiting for AI. It looks like it already works like this? It was slow the first time I searched for my postcode, subsequent times have been very fast.

I wouldn't say they’re “obviously” AI fakes.

I’m not from the UK, so I’m not familiar with what their IDs are supposed to look like.

I was suspicious, though—the hands holding the ID cards looked kind of “crispy.” But at the same time, I thought, “woah, where did the website owner even get these photos?” It wasn’t until I read the Hacker News post that I realized they were all AI-generated (and now cached).

And here’s the thing: I’m an engineer at Apple with decades of experience in the tech industry—I’m not exactly new to this stuff. If I got fooled even for a couple of seconds, imagine how easy it would be to trick someone who isn’t technical.

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