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Show HN: SVG Animation Software
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Re: Show HN: SVG Animation Software
#82Great work, but I have to ask. How is this different from Rive?
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
When version 2 is out, you will have the option to upgrade for a fee or to continue to use version 1 for free for as long as you like.
I think that this is a disingenuous use of the (legacy) term 'Lifetime license'. No-one who hasn't recently been screwed over by a software house like 4K Video Downloader [1] would think that 'lifetime' only covered the current lead version number. A new term such as 'All version [n] updates included' (or something less clunky) needs to be found. At least one could Google it and understand the proposition, if its mea…
The fact that every single person that brings this up is met with a form of "we don't see a problem, you're just reading it wrong" is a bad sign for the future of this project.
Re: Show HN: SVG Animation Software
#84Great work, but I have to ask. How is this different from Rive?
Thanks! We primarily focus on SVG animations, while Rive has its proprietary format and player. SVG animations run natively in the browser and don't require a player. By having their own format and player, they are not limited by standards and can, naturally, provide more features. Of course, this comes with disadvantages too, as users get vendor-locked. Also, they have a subscription-based model, while we offer perpetual licenses for a one-off payment.
Re: Show HN: SVG Animation Software
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that this is a disingenuous use of the (legacy) term 'Lifetime license'. No-one who hasn't recently been screwed over by a software house like 4K Video Downloader [1] would think that 'lifetime' only covered the current lead version number. A new term such as 'All version [n] updates included' (or something less clunky) needs to be found. At least one could Google it and understand the proposition, if its mea…
The fact that every single person that brings this up is met with a form of "we don't see a problem, you're just reading it wrong" is a bad sign for the future of this project.
The product's value is not given by its pricing model, and the future is bright.
Re: Show HN: SVG Animation Software
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's confusing because the pricing page literally states "Enjoy the benefits of our lifetime license and get access to all features and upcoming updates with a one-off payment."
What is confusing? Since the launch, we have released 10 updates, and we'll continue to release new updates until v1 reaches its EOL. Then, the updates will stop, but you will still be able to use the software. It seems pretty straightforward to me.
I sell software with a similar licence. I'd say that get access to all features and upcoming updates is incompatible with Then, the updates will stop. At a very minimum it's confusing, but it sounds fairly deceptive to me. I think being really clear about what users will receive is paramount, even if it ends up making the messaging confusing.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think selling by version is arguably the most ethical way to do it, maybe with a SaaS license option. I think the main thing is just be honest that that is what you are doing.
I think JetBrains model is best with thier IDE. You purchase, and get one year of updates, if you don't renew you get a perpetual license at whatever update level your update license ended at, and you can restart at anytime. This avoids games about what is or is not a "new version" or shipping minor updates as versions or any of that nonsense, it's just updates generally.
This isn't true for JetBrains any more, and hasn't been for ~10 years. They run on what is essentially a pure subscription now, with the caveat that if you stop paying, you can continue to use a version of the software. However, it's not the version you're using at the end of your subscription period, it's the version from 1 year prior to that. So if you stop paying, you will probably have to downgrade. See: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What....
Re: Show HN: SVG Animation Software
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is confusing? Since the launch, we have released 10 updates, and we'll continue to release new updates until v1 reaches its EOL. Then, the updates will stop, but you will still be able to use the software. It seems pretty straightforward to me.
I sell software with a similar licence. I'd say that get access to all features and upcoming updates is incompatible with Then, the updates will stop . At a very minimum it's confusing, but it sounds fairly deceptive to me. I think being really clear about what users will receive is paramount, even if it ends up making the messaging confusing.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. The primary reason people buy Expressive Animator is its high quality. The perpetual license is just a bonus. It's sad to hear words like "deceptive" from a fellow entrepreneur, but don't worry, I've grown a thick skin over the last years.
Re: Show HN: SVG Animation Software
#89Is this one of those lifetime purchases where I have to pay again in 5 years when the developers realise they regretted offering a lifetime licence?
We have exactly the same business model as Affinity.
You might go and read the ad copy of Affinity (I own v2 of it).
USD$164.99 One-off payment | excl. tax
Get Version 2 of Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo and Affinity Publisher on
all operating systems, including iPad, for one low bundle price.
How about Cleanshot?
$29 One-Time Payment
One year of updates
Now let's look at Expressive:
Enjoy the benefits of our lifetime license and get access to all features and
upcoming updates with a one-off payment.
Re: Show HN: SVG Animation Software
#90Will give this a trial, but just wanted to ask: does the svg export use SMIL or javascript or css? (If SMIL major props, I’ve been looking for a gui SMIL editor forever…)