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Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

#81

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Breaking and entering is already illegal, why do people sell locks?

Like tags, locks are also deliberately encumbered so that locksmiths and law enforcement can easily defeat them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5jzHw3lXCQ

That video makes no suggestion that the locks have been deliberately sabotaged. The theory in the video is nothing more than that the company is incompetent at making locks.

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

#82

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Breaking and entering is already illegal, why do people sell locks?

Locks keep the dyslexic realtor from showing my house to people interested in the neighboring property.

yeah, but they do nothing to stop a locksmith in a fugue state from rekeying all the bolts to match the neighboring property and vice-versa, and then the realtor can walk right in, and you're locked out!

so it's better to just leave the door open.

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

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post #82

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Locks keep the dyslexic realtor from showing my house to people interested in the neighboring property.

yeah, but they do nothing to stop a locksmith in a fugue state from rekeying all the bolts to match the neighboring property and vice-versa, and then the realtor can walk right in, and you're locked out! so it's better to just leave the door open.

You’re proving the other persons point - the reason why the a thief doesn’t trivially pick locks isn’t because of the lock, it’s because it’s illegal and there’s a consequence.

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

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A while ago saw someone who was working in the tracking space said the following. For stolen items you don't want to track them. You want to be able to ask them where they are. The advantage is you can make a locator that doesn't reveal itself by transmitting. And it doesn't waste power receiving gps signals. You could literally have a device that runs for years on a AA battery. The reason you don't see these on the…

> You want to be able to ask them where they are. Through what presently-existing technology, exactly, is this idea supposed to work over distances greater than at best a couple of miles with say LoRA? > The reason you don't see these on the market is because the people that fund products want to sell location data. I'm not equipped to analyse their claims in detail, but Apple claims the design of their find-my netwo…

It is end-to-end encrypted, yes. The protocol has been widely reverse-engineered and Apple can't actually read your item's location at all. It's pretty clever.

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

#88

A poor workaround to a problem created by unnecessary restrictions. Stalking is already illegal, so why are the tags crippled in the first place? This "feature" severely limits the usefulness of tags for tracking stolen items. Why not just sell some tags that don't alert everyone to their presence? Police and intelligence agencies have those already, so who are we protecting?

> Stalking is already illegal, so why are the tags crippled in the first place? I assume because it's a network that relies on its reputation among participating nodes to trust it will not be used to track them involuntarily, else they would opt out and collapse the network.

On a related topic, I've opted out of Google's BLE tracking/repeating feature. Apple provides no way to do this. The extra battery drain is significant and measurable, and I did not sign up for this when I purchased my devices.

https://support.google.com/android/thread/284190689/how-to-o...

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

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yup. it unfortunately works well in the gun industry

And you can use hammers to brutally murder people as well as to drive in nails. You can use a screwdriver to grievously wound someone besides using it to repair your glasses. The fact that a tool can be used for bad things does not negate the good things it can be used for. Nor does it mean that the maker is responsible if someone chooses to use it for bad things.

Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag

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> Stalking is already illegal, so why are the tags crippled in the first place? I assume because it's a network that relies on its reputation among participating nodes to trust it will not be used to track them involuntarily, else they would opt out and collapse the network.

On a related topic, I've opted out of Google's BLE tracking/repeating feature. Apple provides no way to do this. The extra battery drain is significant and measurable, and I did not sign up for this when I purchased my devices. https://support.google.com/android/thread/284190689/how-to-o...

You can disable it on iPhone by:

Go to: Settings → your name → Find My → Find My iPhone

Toggle “Find My network” → OFF

It should be noted that this will also disable your ability to find your own airtags.

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