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Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by nightski »

mrandish wrote: post #56

Great idea! I've been humorously referring to chat agents as next gen Clippy because of their chipper, talky default personas which I find insufferably annoying. I'm kind of shocked Microsoft didn't already do this as an alt version of their CoPilot UI. Really a huge miss on their part because I hate the overbearingly intrusive way they keep forcing it into their OS, apps and my fucking laptop keyboard. If they at le…

They did though, I swear it was in a presentation you could select clippy as an avatar.

Edit: yes found it.

[1] https://windowsreport.com/with-copilot-avatar-microsoft-will...

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by Henchman21 »

vunderba wrote: post #49
jl6 wrote: post #45

IIRC correctly, Clippy’s most famous feature was interrupting you to offer advice. The advice was usually basic/useless/annoying, hence Clippy’s reputation, but a powerful LLM could actually make the original concept work. It would not be simply a chatbot that responds to text, but rather would observe your screen, understand it through a vision model, and give appropriate advice. Things like “did you know there’s an…

We are probably getting closer to that with the newer multimodal LLMs, but you'd almost need to take a screenshot on intervals fed directly to the LLM to provide a sort of chronological context to help it understand what the user is trying to do and gauge the users intentions. As you say though, I don't know how many people would be comfortable having screenshots of their computer sent arbitrarily to a non-local LLM.

So, the Replay feature being slowly rolled out in Win11?

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by Henchman21 »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #50
jl6 wrote: post #45

IIRC correctly, Clippy’s most famous feature was interrupting you to offer advice. The advice was usually basic/useless/annoying, hence Clippy’s reputation, but a powerful LLM could actually make the original concept work. It would not be simply a chatbot that responds to text, but rather would observe your screen, understand it through a vision model, and give appropriate advice. Things like “did you know there’s an…

>and give appropriate advice "It's time to work, Dave"

I’m sorry, I can’t do that Hal

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by xyc »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #32
rafram wrote: post #17

This is cool, but does no one even look at what libraries they're shipping anymore? I mean, why does this Clippy-style LLM interface bundle: - A JavaScript implementation of the Jinja templating language - A full GitHub API client - A library that takes a string and tells you if it's a valid npm package name - A useless shim for the JavaScript Math module And 119 other libraries? This thing would have taken up 10% of…

> A JavaScript implementation of the Jinja templating language A guess without looking into the code: Jinja templating is used to define how to prompt the model (i.e. system first, then this specific character / token, then user, then if it's a tool prepend this and append that, etc.)

It seems that this is possibly not necessary, since LLaMA.cpp already integrates Jinja with CPP implementation (through minja)

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by 6510 »

freedomben wrote: post #64
mrandish wrote: post #56

Great idea! I've been humorously referring to chat agents as next gen Clippy because of their chipper, talky default personas which I find insufferably annoying. I'm kind of shocked Microsoft didn't already do this as an alt version of their CoPilot UI. Really a huge miss on their part because I hate the overbearingly intrusive way they keep forcing it into their OS, apps and my fucking laptop keyboard. If they at le…

> I'm kind of shocked Microsoft didn't already do this as an alt version of their CoPilot UI. Seriously! This makes me think nobody at Microsoft with the authority to approve something like that has a sense of humor and/or good business sense. The nostalgia would be enormous . Hell I'm a linux person now and I'd install Clippy if it supported Fedora

yeah, make it give edgy suggestions like: Do you want to find a new job?

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by siryeetey »

_-_-__-_-_- wrote: post #70

Wow. The ease-of-use is insanely good. I haven't figured out yet how to move clippy to a different location on the screen (rather than centred), but it works well. I have multiple models downloaded and am chatting already!

click and drag on the bottom right corner of clippy to drag

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by indrora »

mrandish wrote: post #56

Great idea! I've been humorously referring to chat agents as next gen Clippy because of their chipper, talky default personas which I find insufferably annoying. I'm kind of shocked Microsoft didn't already do this as an alt version of their CoPilot UI. Really a huge miss on their part because I hate the overbearingly intrusive way they keep forcing it into their OS, apps and my fucking laptop keyboard. If they at le…

I'm firmly of the opinion that if they had shipped what is copilot as Cortana, they'd have seen little to no backlash.

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by dylan604 »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #77
mrandish wrote: post #56

Great idea! I've been humorously referring to chat agents as next gen Clippy because of their chipper, talky default personas which I find insufferably annoying. I'm kind of shocked Microsoft didn't already do this as an alt version of their CoPilot UI. Really a huge miss on their part because I hate the overbearingly intrusive way they keep forcing it into their OS, apps and my fucking laptop keyboard. If they at le…

Customers I build AI chat features for also liken it to clippy. I think it’s a very common association.

I hope you accept that likening how it is intended, and I can't imagine that being a good thing. Clippy was universally panned. To me, I wouldn't be telling people that the thing I'm spending time working on was received as this generation's Clippy.

Re: Show HN: Clippy – 90s UI for local LLMs

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Post by 6510 »

jl6 wrote: post #45

IIRC correctly, Clippy’s most famous feature was interrupting you to offer advice. The advice was usually basic/useless/annoying, hence Clippy’s reputation, but a powerful LLM could actually make the original concept work. It would not be simply a chatbot that responds to text, but rather would observe your screen, understand it through a vision model, and give appropriate advice. Things like “did you know there’s an…

It can still be annoying; I feel it is part of his personality.

It looks like you are writing a comment on Hacker News.

Would you like help with:

- Commas? There shouldn't be one behind "responds to text"

- Capitalization? You've missed a D in "did you know..."

- Punctuation? You've missed a question mark behind "what you’re doing". It goes inside the quotes, of course!

[] Don't ever suggest anything like this ever again.

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