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Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by webprofusion »

Interesting that Suno et al miss out on the obvious problem that actual musicians need extra musicians for their own projects.

For instance a guitarist will have a track they wish they had vocals for(and lyrics) for and if they could pay for that they would.

Literally if you could highlight a tune section in your DAW, prompt it, and vocals + lyrics were generated, possibly different version or harmonies for existing parts etc. Musicians already pay for plugins but the singing ones are awful to use so far.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by karpierz »

mco wrote: post #61

On one hand this is impressive, and I've been wondering when something like this would appear. On the other hand, I am -- like others here have expressed -- saddened by the impact this has on real musicians. Music is human, music theory is deeply mathematical and fascinating -- "solving" it with a big hammer like generative AI is rather unsatisfying. The other very real aspect here is "training data" has to come from…

> Message me if anyone's still interested in "dumb" AI like that. :-)

Not sure how to reach out, but I'm definitely interested in reading about procedural methods in music synthesis. Any links describing your approach?

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by nlh »

This is super cool! Thanks for the hard work you've clearly put into this.

My dream product in this space (...that I didn't know existed until I discovered your site about 10 minutes ago LOL):

I listen to music when I work/code, and I used to loooooove Spotify Playlist Radio (a feature the reason for which they killed I will never understand) because it helped me discover new music in the style of music I already enjoyed working to. Liked a song? Add it to the seed list and click play to fine-tune the radio station.

So what I really want is just a fine-tuneable infinite stream of novel music to work to. And by fine-tuneable, I mean I'd love to be able to nudge the generation (Pandora style) with thumbs ups / thumbs downs, or other more specific guidance/feedback (more bass, faster tempo, etc.) until I have this perfectly crafted, customized-for-me stream of music.

I'd probably listen to it all day and happily pay $$ for this.

Is this a pipe dream?

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by unraveller »

braebo wrote: post #26
zaptrem wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion training on all music is no more theft than Taylor Swift listening to the radio growing up (as long as we don't regurgitate existing songs which would be bad and useless anyway). I think an alternative legal interpretation where all of humanity's musical knowledge and history are controlled by three megacorporations (UMG/Sony/Warner) would be kinda depressing. If the above is true we might as well shutd…

It’s intellectual property laundering. A company selling a button that launders the blood sweat and tears of generations of artists is not the same as a person being inspired and dedicating themselves to mastery. Humans create value. AI consumes and commoditizes that value, stealing it from the people and selling it back to their customers. It’s unethical and will be detrimental in the long run. All profit should be…

It won't be detriment to consumers who ultimately decide the value. If I could AI gen a better tasting cocacola for cheaper that would be beneficial to consumers and coke wouldn't deserve a cut. Get gud, as they say.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by unraveller »

code_for_monkey wrote: post #49
zaptrem wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the consumer stuff: It's fun, and IMO that's enough. Not every song has to be peak artistic quality pushing the world forward, sometimes it's enough to bring a smile to a friend's face by making a song about them. If you think their art is slop you shouldn't have to listen to it (IMO Spotify et al should have an optional "no AI music" filter for now). For the API: I think this could be integrated into artists wor…

the reason a song from a friend makes you happy is directly related to the effort behind it, this is totally meaningless.

You know that post card they sent you is not actually a photoshop-free picture taken by them. They just addressed it to, you should totally dump them from your life.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by r618 »

i've been occasionally trying to get some usable ambience tracks from these various models, but none of them seem to be able to produce looping tracks

based on results so far it also looks like more flexible approach to ai generation would be to generate set of stems/samples based on user description and let them to actually compose instead of producing complete audio (maybe this is already happening somewhere)

- in either case, properly looped tracks will be most likely necessary to be produced by these models at some point

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by akrymski »

I really wish this trend of prompting gen AI models with text would stop. It's really meaningless. Musicians need gen AI they can prompt with a melody on their keyboard. Or a bit of whistling into the microphone. Or a beat they can tap on the table. That is what allows humans to unleash their creativity. Not AI generating random bits that fit a distribution of training data. English language is not the right input for anything except for information retrieval tasks.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by vasco »

akrymski wrote: post #88

I really wish this trend of prompting gen AI models with text would stop. It's really meaningless. Musicians need gen AI they can prompt with a melody on their keyboard. Or a bit of whistling into the microphone. Or a beat they can tap on the table. That is what allows humans to unleash their creativity. Not AI generating random bits that fit a distribution of training data. English language is not the right input fo…

> Not AI generating random bits that fit a distribution of training data

How is that specific to text prompting? If you tap your fingers to a model and it generates a song from your tapping, it's still just fitting the training data as you say.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

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Post by slater- »

naltroc wrote: post #59
bongodongobob wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah every musician has a story of writing a new song, bringing it to the band, and they say "oh, this sounds just like [song]." It's almost impossible to make something truly novel.

I have written and performed many songs over many bands. At no point did anybody compare my work to any other artist's work, because it is genuinely unique.

Citation needed. Where can I hear some of your work?
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