Prize for the most power-hungry mirror. I also notice that the paintings are not stable over small changes in the inputs.
To me, that’s the charm.
How about changing the style every time the viewer blinks?
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Artistic skill lies not merely in the hand, but also in the eye.
> Artistic skill lies not merely in the hand, but also in the eye. Precisely. There is no skill in artistry, it’s rather just a developed sense of style, that doesn’t come from a medium or method, it comes from growing to know oneself.
Just watched "F for Fake" (Orson Welles, 1973), a documentary of sorts about the great art forger Elmyr de Hory who was able to imitate the style of many of his contemporaries to perfection (Modigliani, Matisse, etc.), fooling the painters themselves!
At one point in the movie his biographer says
> I think Elmyr's problem for years and the reason why he could not succeed as a painter in his own right was that the type of life he led prohibited him from having a personal vision.
Elmyr had great skill, greater than anyone alive perhaps, but he had nothing to say.
Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings
#83On the low framerate: why get a pi5 when a Jetson Nano could be had for about the same price?
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#84FYI, the link to the frame used to mount the display just blocks you: https://www.leroymerlin.fr/produits/decoration-eclairage/dec... For those curious, it's a MILO 21 x 29.7 cm black frame. These links work for me: https://www.leroymerlin.pt/produtos/decoracao-e-tapetes/mold... Also, the screen he uses (HMTECH Raspberry Pi Screen 10.1) is pretty hard to find. Do people have other good recommendations for screens wit…
The screen is available on Amazon? But it's a touch screen, which seems overkill; any screen would probably work? One can always build a custom frame around it.
Touch screen I think is cool because then you could interact with the art.
I did a little research and these Waveshare displays look really beautiful. For a particular size display, they have models in different resolutions (from lower to higher res). But they're only for rpis and windows, not like mac or ipad. The QLED ones are the best.
https://www.waveshare.com/product/ai/displays/10.1hp-capqled...
Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you present it as art, sure. > But the best part about art is that other people don't have to consider what you do as art. I often think of art in a way that is remarkably consistent with these statements. My view was "Art is an invitation to consider" Sticking a banana to a wall becomes art when you do it to make people to engage or think about it. Engagement is not compulsory, but I think the invitation might…
> You don't have to engage, but choosing to denigrate is actively hostile engagement. Apologies, that was not my intent, more to make people think because some people seemed to be confused about what is the art here. Sticking a webcam through a filter to produce a pretty output isn't necessarily original, but that doesn't stop it being interactive art. Some folks here seem to think the image is art, whereas I see the…
If I had to drag myself across a desert in order to press that Bing button, would it be art then? (I think, in that example, the act of pressing the button might be the art - a performance).
Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings
#86The interesting thing to me about this, and most other demos, is what people are simulating as examples of art. In this case, it's a very specific Picasso time period. Others tend to center on fantasy or well-known science fiction painters. This makes sense if your only exposure to art is the internet. Maybe a few Wikipedia sessions and a Google search for "modern art". The actual art world is in a huge transition right now and the idea of this Western dominance of art history is being completely re-evaluated. I haven't seen many demos of these tools, or AI art in general, that makes use of any actual modern art from the past 20-30 years. I definitely don't see examples from non-European art history (except Ukiyo-e or anime). That says a lot about what most of you expect from tools like this. It's not just technical, it's culturally normative. Think of it, (without looking it up) can any of you name any living artists that have been exhibited in the Museum of Modern Art in the past 30 years? I see so many strong opinions here about what art is or isn't, but wonder if anybody actually goes to museums or galleries to see what is considered modern art.
Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
yeah yeah yeah, do all these things, and afterwards, look at 2d interpolation methods that don't require AI for your inbetweens. There's some real fast kernel math that can lerp from one blob to another at 8 billion fps.
I think you’re getting downvoted because “yeah yeah yeah” is normally a sign that someone is sarcastically dismissing an idea, but the rest of your comment suggests you’re not at all - linerp is a great idea!
These are great ideas thank you!
Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings
#88Have you considered a high frame rate morph effect between images? That would increase the effective frame rate and probably would look pretty cool.
I actually think the high frame rate will look worse unless the styling changes less in between frames. Otherwise, it's going to look erratic and there will be a ton of "popping" if each frame changes as much as the frames in the current video. Or maybe op wants it to be a chaotic feeling.
Many years ago I did a couple of hundred variations on the mona lisa in photoshop, and stacked them as a gif. As the eyes remained unchanged in each frame, they gave a fixed point you could focus on while the rest of the face strobed chaotically. It was a nice effect.
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#89Nice! I peeked at the code and thought I’d share a few tips for improving the low frame rate: Base64 encoding the JPEG bytes will increase payload size up to ~30% and burns CPU cycles on both client and server. This is unnecessary, as Websocket protocol can send binary payloads (doesn’t need to be text). Consider removing lossy jpg compression as well, ie just send the raw RGB bytes over the network. Then on the serv…
Ok, but I wonder if it really needs to be real time like this? Wouldn't it make more sense to have some kind of button: somebody makes a pose, takes a picture, the picture is run through some kind of transformation and comes back as a painting that stays there until someone takes another picture? Wouldn't the illusion of art be better that way? (It would not be a "mirror" anymore though.)
I think it has to be either real time or a very low framerate, like once every 30 seconds. That way you have time to see each "painting"
Re: Show HN: Wall-mounted diffusion mirror that turns reflections into paintings
#90On the low framerate: why get a pi5 when a Jetson Nano could be had for about the same price?
What do you want a high frame rate for when looking at art? What is the frame rate of the Mona Lisa?