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Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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I am a big fan of Notion but lately it's like they have been asleep on the driver seat. If they only offered custom extensions I think they would do so much better. I have recently switched to Obsidian but I am not fully committed yet, so i will give this a try. My only critic so far... It seems you copied one of my least favorite "features" from Notion which is to force a default "Title" column for the tables. I fin…

It's okay to change the type of title field. I will patch an update.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

#82
post #77
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your advice. Eidos is more like a PDM tool rather than a PKM tool, but it can be used as a PKM with some extensions, just as the introduction says, it's an extensible framework. I've used the tools you mentioned and more. None of them have a powerful table, which is one of the reasons I decided to create Eidos. Eidos can handle large amounts of data like Excel. Anytype/Outline cannot do this. I plan to fol…

If you allow dependency-included self-host (preferably via an application wrapper like Electron where I can use a firewall to control which outbound connections are allowed), support mobile devices, and charge a one-time fee for p2p sync (decentralized, like SyncThing), this will be an instant buy for me. Thought: Can you add a logout button? Also, please consider a name change so SquEnix doesn't sue you out of exist…

What you want is also what I'm working on. Eidos is a personal open-source project focused on individual needs. It respects everyone's privacy. It does not collect any information. Since there is no account system, no need for a logout button

I really love this name. If I use Eidos Space, will there be trademark issues?

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

#83
post #69

How do you deal with iOS deleting PWA data when unused? I'm building an app that relies on indexedDB, which afaik is the only persistent storage a PWA can access.

Currently, it can only run on high-version chromium-based browsers, and it's compatible with Android, but not iOS. Apple is killing web apps.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

#84

This looks cool. At first pass, I have one big question: are there any facilities or even just plumbing for syncing between installs / front-ends? SaaS/cloud approaches have real downsides in terms of ownership but the big upside is access from multiple points/devices (home desktop, browser on office machine, personal laptop, mobile device, etc). Obviously SaaS isn't the only way to do that, centralizing around self-…

I carefully designed the architecture, which is very flexible. The "backend" is currently running on web worker & service worker. It should be possible to deploy it to a web-standard runtime environment for self-hosting.

P2P synchronization based on CRDT is on the roadmap.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

#85

I’ve been keeping an eye on these open source block based apps, and this kind of feels like you set out to scratch your itch and managed to release the most feature complete and polished one out there. Well done! Something about SQLite at the core just seems to drive a direction I like, and pushes an open ethos. (Shout outs to Grist in this arena as well.) So much power in such simple interfaces… and when I saw you c…

As a long-time dilettante in this space, I totally agree. I am all-in on Obsidian (and a long-term paying sync customer) which is imo peerless for note-taking, and of course the plugin ecosystem is very vibrant. But there’s no question that there’s something special about the core “block” abstraction used by Notion (and, I see, AnyType), in that it really does allow you to not only structure and display information i…

Can you share some more promising entrants? I like op's solution because it's highly customizable, but too early/ buggy to replace Notion.

I was coincidentally looking at Anytype yesterday, but can't create my own extensions (and the database has no formula type for columns??).

Curious if there's something that's been around for 1 year+ and allows me to build my own extensions?

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

#86

I have tried quite many such apps and keep returning to Tiddlywiki ( https://tiddlywiki.com/ ). It is not perfect, and the lack of hierarchy can be both a blessing and a curse. It uses flat-files which can impact performance and be more cumbersome than a database. Also, the integration with external files is a bit clumsy. However, the main strength is customizability. Various data is best presented in various ways, a…

How is it different to Obsidian?

Joe Armstrong of Erlang fame was a big fan of tiddlywiki, and he met up with the creator to give a talk together about tiddlywiki: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uv1UfLPK7_Q

“Joe Armstrong & Jeremy Ruston - Intertwingling the Tiddlywiki with Erlang | Code Mesh LDN 18”

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

#87
post #18
post #9

What’s the shortcoming in iOS that has spawned a million notes clones

Yes, much like the shortcomings of Windows 95 that spawned a million Notepad clones in the form of IDEs, code-oriented editors, and Office (née Works?)-like suites.

the notepad clones didn't require a storage engine. they saved files using the OS storage API

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a long-time dilettante in this space, I totally agree. I am all-in on Obsidian (and a long-term paying sync customer) which is imo peerless for note-taking, and of course the plugin ecosystem is very vibrant. But there’s no question that there’s something special about the core “block” abstraction used by Notion (and, I see, AnyType), in that it really does allow you to not only structure and display information i…

Can you share some more promising entrants? I like op's solution because it's highly customizable, but too early/ buggy to replace Notion. I was coincidentally looking at Anytype yesterday, but can't create my own extensions (and the database has no formula type for columns??). Curious if there's something that's been around for 1 year+ and allows me to build my own extensions?

AppFlowy is another big open source entrant, but I haven’t looked at it recently and can’t comment on its qualities.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

#90

Tangent! I really wanted to like Notion but it's not smooth enough for writing. The cell system makes it clumsy. I prefer to write on markdown files because it's much faster and I can do it on my text editor of choice. I like obsidian because it's basically that with a bit of extras. But then I lose the concurrent editing. I want Google Docs meets obsidian type of environment. And I am yet to find it. If any of you k…

I want this too. I add one thing: I want the ability to search/read/add to notes on both desktop and on mobile in a native app. I have yet to see a PWA that has the fluidity, stability, and ease of use of a well made app.
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