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Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by j45 »

Gormo wrote: post #76
weinzierl wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The phrasing is pretty standard, the important part is the middle sentence. Often it includes irrevocable , transferable and sublicensable as well. That being said, I hate "remains your property" part. It's just fluff that changes nothing, but distracts from the following sentence.

The reason why this is standard is because functionally, anything that receives data from a user, hosts it, and transmits it to third parties is engaging in distribution of copyrighted content. Without a grant of license, pretty much every message board, social media platform, or any website or internet-based application that does anything with user-generated data could be exposed to copyright liability. You may note…

Stating you own it, and then licensing it away in the sentence after to give yourself irrevocable rights seems duplicitous.

Neat looking service though.

Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by autoexecbat »

watersb wrote: post #16

Very interesting! I would like some clarity on the Terms of Service clause 4: > The content created using Supertone Shift remains your property. However, by using our Services, you grant Supertone a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, adapt, and display content solely for the purpose of operating and improving Supertone Shift. This license does not grant Supertone any rights to sell or d…

It could atleast have a time limit

Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by hollowayaegis »

trashcluster wrote: post #43

If it was compatible as a VST plugin for DAWs it would be even more useful than a standalone software. From skimming through the website it seems that Supertone already make a VST plugin so it may be a matter of time before Shift becomes a VST too.

Self plug, but I've been developing a local AI voice changing VST [1] (bring your own RVC models, or use builtins). It works in DAWs in realtime on modern macs.

[1] https://audio.sunflower.industries

Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by itishappy »

michaelmior wrote: post #29

This seems really cool and I can see some great use cases. But the marketing is very odd to me. It says it will let me express myself in a voice that is truly my own…but I can already do that with my natural voice. That seems more likely to be unique than what I would get by adjusting it in software.

Salesperson: You test drive any car on the lot!

You: Why? I already own a 2002 Ford Escape...

I'm not trying to make fun of you, I think you actually have a unique and impressive perspective! I've always hated hearing my voice on answering machines, so if I could choose any voice I'd choose Chris Cornell or Morgan Freeman.

Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by mintplant »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #67
corytheboyd wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside of the trans use-case mentioned here, I could imagine some women gamers getting value out of this too. You kinda need voice comms to play some games properly, and not wanting to reveal yourself as a woman online, especially over voip, is completely reasonable. Because gamers are terrible. Something like this could make hiding that trivial, assuming the latency is accurate (would need to be very fast in some g…

Are gamers really more toxic towards women than men? I feel like switching gender will just switch one kind of toxicity to another.

Yes, unfortunately. It's not a rigorous scientific study, but one recent experiment that I think is illuminating:

https://esports.gg/news/valorant/male-valorant-pros-face-sex...

> The experiment showed just how drastically a woman’s voice can impact the score of a player. One male pro played with his normal voice and earned 15 kills with two deaths. When playing Valorant with a female voice, his score almost completely inversed with three kills and 16 deaths after the other players refused to cooperate in the game.

> The pro players also endured being mocked and insulted with sexist slurs. Many will recognize this as the average experience of women in gaming. During their games, one male teammate told a pro to go back to the kitchen. Likewise, another teammate told the female-voiced pro that “all women should just die.”

Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by Gormo »

j45 wrote: post #81
Gormo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason why this is standard is because functionally, anything that receives data from a user, hosts it, and transmits it to third parties is engaging in distribution of copyrighted content. Without a grant of license, pretty much every message board, social media platform, or any website or internet-based application that does anything with user-generated data could be exposed to copyright liability. You may note…

Stating you own it, and then licensing it away in the sentence after to give yourself irrevocable rights seems duplicitous. Neat looking service though.

No, it's definitely not duplicitous, and is standard practice across the industry.

It boils down to "we're not claiming to own the rights to your content -- you still retain those -- but we need a grant of permission from you to ensure that we can publish it on our own site without facing possible liability".

Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by Gormo »

mistrial9 wrote: post #80
Gormo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason why this is standard is because functionally, anything that receives data from a user, hosts it, and transmits it to third parties is engaging in distribution of copyrighted content. Without a grant of license, pretty much every message board, social media platform, or any website or internet-based application that does anything with user-generated data could be exposed to copyright liability. You may note…

that is totally dependent on the jurisdictions involved, and modified by the agreement that the user accepts to start the service(s) no?

It's part of the agreement that the user accepts to use the service, and there are frameworks in place that already implement cross-jurisdictional reciprocity for things like copyright licenses.

Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by renewiltord »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #67
corytheboyd wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside of the trans use-case mentioned here, I could imagine some women gamers getting value out of this too. You kinda need voice comms to play some games properly, and not wanting to reveal yourself as a woman online, especially over voip, is completely reasonable. Because gamers are terrible. Something like this could make hiding that trivial, assuming the latency is accurate (would need to be very fast in some g…

Are gamers really more toxic towards women than men? I feel like switching gender will just switch one kind of toxicity to another.

Yeah, we used to play CS:GO quite a bit and the one girl we knew who played was both very good and constantly harassed. When we 4-queued, we'd just boot the other guy who was being annoying. The rest of the time it was mute and shun. I was GNM at my highest, she was GE but had to play on an alt to play with us (too high rank dispersion will fail to queue for matchmaking). Once or twice when we got higher (MG or so) there was less of it. I got maybe a few comments about competency (rightfully I suppose) but she got them all the time and she was way better.

To help clarify: The Gold Nova Master rank is like 60th percentile. GE is 99th.

Re: Show HN: Supertone Shift – AI powered Real-time voice changer

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Post by npteljes »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #67
corytheboyd wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside of the trans use-case mentioned here, I could imagine some women gamers getting value out of this too. You kinda need voice comms to play some games properly, and not wanting to reveal yourself as a woman online, especially over voip, is completely reasonable. Because gamers are terrible. Something like this could make hiding that trivial, assuming the latency is accurate (would need to be very fast in some g…

Are gamers really more toxic towards women than men? I feel like switching gender will just switch one kind of toxicity to another.

It's not a perfect shield against online toxicity that's for sure, but the online voice-enabled gaming world is not kind to women:

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/online-gaming-in-20...

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