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Re: Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking

#81

Two thoughts: - I like the no-nonsense landing page, but what I'd like more is to be able to see what the product actually looks like without having to sign up. At least screenshots, but a demo would be nice. - I'm looking to migrate away from Pinboard, but I like how you can see all of a user's bookmarks (e.g: https://pinboard.in/u:justusthane ) unless they mark them private. I get that the point of Webtag is it's p…

Just curious, why are you planning to migrate away from Pinboard? I have been meaning to sign up for years.

I've been been a Pinboard fan for years. I paid $11 for lifetime access back in 2011, and "upgraded" to an annual plan with archival in 2021 (mostly because I wanted to support the continued development of Pinboard, and that the time Marciej mentioned new features that were supposedly coming). I love Maciej's work, writing[0], and general vibe. Pinboard acquiring del.icio.us[1] after Yahoo drove it into the ground is one of the most delicious (pardon the pun) acquisition stories in tech history I think. I also enjoyed his micro-incubator thing[2] (I think he was giving grants of $50 or something).

Unfortunately over the past several years it just feels like he's gotten burnt out on Pinboard and has stopped developing and is barely supporting it. I guess that's fine if everything works properly, but I don't really have a lot of confidence in the future of Pinboard anymore. I personally haven't had any actual problems with Pinboard yet, but have read several accounts by others who have and have found support poor to non-existent.

[0]: https://idlewords.com/

[1]: https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/06/pinboard_acquires_delicious...

[2]: https://blog.pinboard.in/2013/01/pinboard_co_prosperity_winn...

Re: Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking

#82

For a long time I wanted to figure out a way to organize my "bookmarks" that I have scattered all over the place. I have many many favorited posts on HN, I used Reddit's "save" feature, I add videos to "watch later" or some other playlist in Youtube, etc etc. I thought maybe I could one day unify all this into one place where I can tag them so I know why I bookmarked them (I have definitely sifted through pages of my…

Is this possible with tooling available today?

Re: Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking

#83

For a long time I wanted to figure out a way to organize my "bookmarks" that I have scattered all over the place. I have many many favorited posts on HN, I used Reddit's "save" feature, I add videos to "watch later" or some other playlist in Youtube, etc etc. I thought maybe I could one day unify all this into one place where I can tag them so I know why I bookmarked them (I have definitely sifted through pages of my…

Same here. I'm saving my pennies to buy a decent machine to work on precisely that.

What tools would you run provided hw was not an issue?

What specs do you think would be needed?

Re: Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking

#84
Nice, looks like you're off to a great start.

Here are some features I love about Pinboard.in that you could consider adding to Webtag as it grows:

- iOS/Android share extension, so I can easily bookmark anything from my mobile device. This is crucial for me as the friction is reduced enough that I will actually bookmark things and helps me keep everything in one place.

- Auto-complete tags, boy is this handy.

- Use AI to guess tags that I can easily add with a click. See this browser extension for an example: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/pinboard-plus/mphdp...

- A description field that will auto-populate with my highlighted text or default to the site's metadata description. This helps a lot for finding things again without having to stuff a lot of text in an unwieldy title. In the search, I can vaguely describe what I'm looking for and often find it again.

- Semantic search. Pinboard doesn't have this but it could become the holy grail of bookmarking services by adding it. So often I have moments where I recall something I read years ago, but cannot remember the exact wording or how to find it again in a verbatim search function.

- Archival of bookmarks. Even merely automatically submitting the page to an archival site would suffice. The bookmark app I wrote uses a headless browser to save an MHTML file plus yt-dlp to fetch media, but it doesn't have the above features so I don't use it, ha.

- Server-side rendering. The little loading animation is just enough to make the site feel slow and almost defeats your goal of a dead-simple UI. Edit: Also I am seeing 600-700ms response times on the bookmarks endpoint.

For your homepage, I would recommend adjusting the wording on "Plain-text-based bookmarking. No fancy images or graphics." Coming from Pinboard, I was unsure what this meant exactly. At first I wondered if the service archived only the text of bookmarked pages like a "reader mode" feature, especially with the "no limits on storage" note. Also it's not literally plain-text in the typical sense (e.g. .txt files or plain-text accounting). It's just a clean UI. Maybe say "Simple text-only UI" or similar.

On the logged-in menu, I would change "Home" to "My Bookmarks" or similar.

It might be helpful to communicate to prospective users how you plan to fund the project long-term. When selecting a bookmarking service, reliability and longevity are going to be top factors. Free forever, no business plan, etc do not inspire that kind of confidence.

Overall, it's a great start. I wish you luck!

Re: Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, why are you planning to migrate away from Pinboard? I have been meaning to sign up for years.

I've been been a Pinboard fan for years. I paid $11 for lifetime access back in 2011, and "upgraded" to an annual plan with archival in 2021 (mostly because I wanted to support the continued development of Pinboard, and that the time Marciej mentioned new features that were supposedly coming). I love Maciej's work, writing[0], and general vibe. Pinboard acquiring del.icio.us[1] after Yahoo drove it into the ground is…

Have you also considered Linkhut as an alternative? [1] I like it a lot, but I'm addicted to Pinboard's autocompletion of tags, so I haven't made an ultimate switch (I'm also with Pinboard since ~2010-2011).

Would be great, indeed, to see a working instance of Webtag.

1: https://ln.ht

Re: Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking

#89
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been been a Pinboard fan for years. I paid $11 for lifetime access back in 2011, and "upgraded" to an annual plan with archival in 2021 (mostly because I wanted to support the continued development of Pinboard, and that the time Marciej mentioned new features that were supposedly coming). I love Maciej's work, writing[0], and general vibe. Pinboard acquiring del.icio.us[1] after Yahoo drove it into the ground is…

Have you also considered Linkhut as an alternative? [1] I like it a lot, but I'm addicted to Pinboard's autocompletion of tags, so I haven't made an ultimate switch (I'm also with Pinboard since ~2010-2011). Would be great, indeed, to see a working instance of Webtag. 1: https://ln.ht

Curious, what do you mean by “autocompletion of tags”?

Re: Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking

#90
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been been a Pinboard fan for years. I paid $11 for lifetime access back in 2011, and "upgraded" to an annual plan with archival in 2021 (mostly because I wanted to support the continued development of Pinboard, and that the time Marciej mentioned new features that were supposedly coming). I love Maciej's work, writing[0], and general vibe. Pinboard acquiring del.icio.us[1] after Yahoo drove it into the ground is…

Have you also considered Linkhut as an alternative? [1] I like it a lot, but I'm addicted to Pinboard's autocompletion of tags, so I haven't made an ultimate switch (I'm also with Pinboard since ~2010-2011). Would be great, indeed, to see a working instance of Webtag. 1: https://ln.ht

I’ll check it out, thanks! Ideally I’m looking for something that’s self-hosted and also supports archival, but maybe that’s too much to ask.
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