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Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by data_base »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #45

By the way, does anyone happen to know how to overcome the sidebar width limit in the current Firefox versions? I want the tab titles to be less truncated but Firefox won't let me expand the sidebar more than 432 px in width. An alternative (maybe even better) idea which came into my mind is make item title display multi-line (word-wrap). Is there a Grasshopper configuration option for this? I already enabled URL dis…

I documented unlocking the width of the sidebar in Firefox here: https://dev.to/semanticdata/unlock-the-sidebar-width-in-fire...

Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by Terretta »

smcleod wrote: post #75
ccakes wrote: post #16

If any Firefox devs or PMs are reading, PLEASE build even a simple tab grouper into the browser natively. Regardless how recommended a given extension is, all tab manager extensions require access to all web content which is too much. I’d rather use something built in but barebones rather than an addon

This is legitimately the only thing I've been asking for from Firefox the last years, I don't really care about webgpu, usb device access would be nice as would fine grained user-controllable permissions for extensions - but all I really want every single day is a better way to group tabs. Hell - just being able to group them by colour like you can in Chrome would be a huge leap forward. I've tried all the well known…

If you use Mac and haven't looked outside Firefox, note that vertical tabs are in Safari, with groups, and group sync.

Vertical tabs (plus tree tabs) are also in Kagi Orion. Which unlike Safari also runs (a subset of) Firefox (and Chrome) extensions, about 70% as of their last FAQ update:

https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#extensions

Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by mmphosis »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #78
mmphosis wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In settings/preferences you can make “open a new window” the default.

It doesn't work well enough. For example, CTRL-Click a link ignores it and opens a tab. Menu -> Settings also ignores it and opens a tab.

Shift-Click does the trick, but not for Menu > Settings. You can also drag a tab to tear it out to become a new window.

It doesn't work well enough. It's mostly terrible, for example window size and position not being remembered, and opening in random places and sizes.

Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by rmwaite »

kej wrote: post #74
wintermutestwin wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While you have their attention: Where are native vertical tabs? Or at least a settings checkbox to turn horizontal tabs off.

A checkbox in settings would be better, but you can turn off the original tabs with a user style file, just in case anyone reading is unaware.

My concern with this is I’ve seen for a while now that these user chrome features are deprecated. I depend on them a lot and I dread the day they actually go away.

Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by qwerty456127 »

data_base wrote: post #81
qwerty456127 wrote: post #45

By the way, does anyone happen to know how to overcome the sidebar width limit in the current Firefox versions? I want the tab titles to be less truncated but Firefox won't let me expand the sidebar more than 432 px in width. An alternative (maybe even better) idea which came into my mind is make item title display multi-line (word-wrap). Is there a Grasshopper configuration option for this? I already enabled URL dis…

I documented unlocking the width of the sidebar in Firefox here: https://dev.to/semanticdata/unlock-the-sidebar-width-in-fire...

This worked (with Firefox 118.0b2). Thank you very much. I already had almost proper userChrome.css there I apparently created previously but I never knew sidebar should be replaced with sidebar-box.

Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by oriel »

This reminds me of a sabbatical project i ran with during the pandemic. ended up sputtering out due to lack of time and motivation, but i did end up pushing out an initial alpha for some friends

https://elos-edu.notion.site/eLOS-Connect-0-0-11-a72acbec893...

Still trying to clean up the code enough to release out into the open.

Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by quickthrower2 »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #27
ccakes wrote: post #16

If any Firefox devs or PMs are reading, PLEASE build even a simple tab grouper into the browser natively. Regardless how recommended a given extension is, all tab manager extensions require access to all web content which is too much. I’d rather use something built in but barebones rather than an addon

While you have their attention: Where are native vertical tabs? Or at least a settings checkbox to turn horizontal tabs off.

My killer ask for any browser, on Windows is the option to have groups create different taskbar icons, so I can treat some sites like a seperate “app”. For example youtube music.

Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by quickthrower2 »

miroljub wrote: post #9

I don't want to piss on the OP effort, some people will find it useful. For me, I don't understand the problem. Why do so many people need a tab manager in say Firefox, but not in Word, Excel, Windows Explorer or Total Commander?

As a developer here is a scenario:

Start day on task A. Open Task, Open Subtask, Open git PR to check comments, Open Azure portal to check something, check Kibana Logs. Do a seperate second Kibana query.

Get asked about task B

Open Task, Open OneNote docs on that task, open a chatgpt session for that task

This is a mild example

Why not close tabs as they are used? Because if I need them again the load time of many sites is atrocious and then I also need to remember how I got there. I would need to save my kibana query or make a note of how I got to that Azure blade. Neither of these update the URL to capture the state (they are not HATEOAS) or I donn’t trust them to.

Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway914 wrote: post #10
taraparo wrote: post #2

I settled down on SideBerry after having used Tree Tab Style for ages: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/ It adds contexts/categories. So you can have trees of tabs per topic.

Sidebery is wonderful, but the real gem is Tab Stash. Lets me organize tabs into topic-related groups, with the added bonus that not all of these are "living" tabs. Some are archived/hibernated. By default, live tabs are in an unorganized/unnamed group. The only issue I had was I couldn't tell which tab was playing audio. Tab Stash doesn't have indicators for this, so I installed the Sound Control extension to list t…

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Re: Show HN: Advanced Tab Manager for Firefox

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Post by ronjouch »

ronjouch wrote: post #23
ccakes wrote: post #16

If any Firefox devs or PMs are reading, PLEASE build even a simple tab grouper into the browser natively. Regardless how recommended a given extension is, all tab manager extensions require access to all web content which is too much. I’d rather use something built in but barebones rather than an addon

Yes a million times. Please go vote for issue https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1509350 (and please add to the discussion, but do refrain from pure-noise "me too" comments :). If no one comments there today, tomorrow I'll post a summary of stuff discussed here in this HN thread, I see are a couple things worth surfacing. As to why a "simple native tab group" is important even when there are umpteen extensi…

> "If no one comments there today, tomorrow I'll post a summary of stuff discussed here in this HN thread, I see are a couple things worth surfacing."

Done in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1509350#c49

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