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Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by ghaff »

npilk wrote: post #75
DungZeekFu wrote: post #63

I seem to have found a bug (or the word list is drastically different from Wordle). The game says I have 3 possible words remaining, but every Wordle solver website says I only have 2 (and I only have 2 guesses remaining, so this is the difference between the game being winnable and not). The guesses I used for today were WRITE,BOODY,VOUCH,COMMA (and at this point the only two possible words are FOCAL and LOCAL, but…

This may be a spoiler somehow, but one of my guesses was ZONAL, which appears to be valid based on what you’ve guessed so far? That could be the 3rd possible word. I don’t know if it’s in the Wordle list or not. EDIT: this isn’t it - I missed the C in COMMA!

No C in ZONAL.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by xipho »

My uncle, a Scrabble nut, proposed this exact derivative game to me well over a month ago, it's amazing to see ideas emerge in parallel. Feels like "if you've thought of it someone else has already" is more of a Law then a quip at this point.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by julianwachholz »

ghaff wrote: post #65
dontwordle wrote: post #53

Hello! I am the creator of Don’t Wordle. Really excited to see this took off today. I thought I would share some background about the game, some of the iterations I went through, and some of the future features I would like to add. Background: Like many others, I have been playing Wordle daily. Recently, my Wordle win streak hit 99. I was admittedly very careful with my guesses on Day 100, not wanting to ruin my stre…

>What makes a Wordle square yellow One thing I had wondered--but not enough to figure out what the code does... Let's say you enter Mamma for example. And there is one M in the word but in the second position. Which M square does Wordle choose to turn yellow? (But maybe it doesn't matter?) There may be other cases like that as well.

For yellow squares, the particular order in which they turn yellow doesn't matter.

The remaining grey Ms tell you the same thing (that those positions don't have an M).

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by TimTheTinker »

xipho wrote: post #82

My uncle, a Scrabble nut, proposed this exact derivative game to me well over a month ago, it's amazing to see ideas emerge in parallel. Feels like "if you've thought of it someone else has already" is more of a Law then a quip at this point.

I guess you could say the question isn't whether your idea is unique, but whether you've put in the time and effort to develop it, and whether your execution is good.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by noirbot »

tablespoon wrote: post #61
ghaff wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the reasons I suspect that Wordle is popular is that it's "calibrated" (word length, number of guesses, don't have to play on hard mode) to almost always be winnable if you have some semblance of a decent English vocabulary and some sense for letter combinations.

> One of the reasons I suspect that Wordle is popular is that it's "calibrated" (word length, number of guesses, don't have to play on hard mode) to almost always be winnable if you have some semblance of a decent English vocabulary and some sense for letter combinations. Seems like the perfect popular game: be easy enough for most everyone to get, but just hard enough to give a feeling of mastery. I had a similar fe…

And the real value of it is that within "success" there's ranges. The real victory for me is if I can get Wordle in less than 4 guesses, since that's about how fast one can do it with optimal play. I don't really usually have a risk of "losing", but for me it's a bummer if I get to guess 5 or 6.

Not everything has to be pass/fail, and most things in life aren't.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by InfoSecErik »

dontwordle wrote: post #53

Hello! I am the creator of Don’t Wordle. Really excited to see this took off today. I thought I would share some background about the game, some of the iterations I went through, and some of the future features I would like to add. Background: Like many others, I have been playing Wordle daily. Recently, my Wordle win streak hit 99. I was admittedly very careful with my guesses on Day 100, not wanting to ruin my stre…

I love the twist on the game, as well as the implementation automagically calling out when I've been defeated. Well done!

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by julianwachholz »

xipho wrote: post #82

My uncle, a Scrabble nut, proposed this exact derivative game to me well over a month ago, it's amazing to see ideas emerge in parallel. Feels like "if you've thought of it someone else has already" is more of a Law then a quip at this point.

Hard agree. 15 minutes after my very first tweet about my variant, somebody else announced theirs with the exact same concept! I mean what are the odds?

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by FatalLogic »

dontwordle wrote: post #53

Hello! I am the creator of Don’t Wordle. Really excited to see this took off today. I thought I would share some background about the game, some of the iterations I went through, and some of the future features I would like to add. Background: Like many others, I have been playing Wordle daily. Recently, my Wordle win streak hit 99. I was admittedly very careful with my guesses on Day 100, not wanting to ruin my stre…

Great game. Doesn't it push players towards a strategy of working out the solution 'offline', though?

I mean, you start by playing almost the same as standard Wordle, just to guess the answer, without entering it. Then undo everything. Next, figure out a solution which avoids that word. Finally, type in your entire solution.

This could be a bit grindy, and not in the spirit of the game, but it seems like almost assured to win, or am I wrong?

Edit: If there are fewer undos allowed, this strategy gets more difficult

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