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Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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text70 wrote: post #66
skinnymuch wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha this is a point I didn’t bring up but loosely in my opinion lends credence to why obfuscating cogs as cogs is morally wrong. The opposing view on here appears to be if you can compliment the cogs who enjoy that and keep them happy that way, things are better. This view is self serving and for the benefit of the higher ups. Not the cog. Thanks for this though. Interesting to think about. I’ve added your comment a…

At that level, abstract logic becomes more important. Is it better to think of a flower in a field as part of a larger ecosystem, or characterize your company as a machine composed of cogs?

Characterizing the company and cogs as flowers as part of a larger ecosystem sounds and feels better. However if the treatment is the same as the cogs. Or worse with the platitudes, then it’s better for the company and higher ups. Worse for the flowers or cogs.

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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prepend wrote: post #67
skinnymuch wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha this is a point I didn’t bring up but loosely in my opinion lends credence to why obfuscating cogs as cogs is morally wrong. The opposing view on here appears to be if you can compliment the cogs who enjoy that and keep them happy that way, things are better. This view is self serving and for the benefit of the higher ups. Not the cog. Thanks for this though. Interesting to think about. I’ve added your comment a…

I’ve been a cog before and had hippie managers and asshole managers. Honestly, I prefer the occasional whip from the asshole than the constant stream of bullshit from hippies trying to tell me every day how my data entry was “awesome.” The weird thing is sometimes I think they convinced themself that our cog work was awesome. If I’m a commodity, I’d rather be straight about it and have a shared reality since business…

Yes I responded very similarly in a nearby comment. Haven’t had such divergent managers. But have had asshole and normal enough ones. I know I didn’t like it when they thought my work was “awesome”. It would be miserable if they ended up actually believing that.

Your last sentence is key. Worded better than I have been able to word it throughout this entire thread

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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BrianOnHN wrote: post #44
skinnymuch wrote: post #30

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Which position are you taking? The OPs comment isn’t going to make income inequality any better. Does “respecting” people by not saying they are a cog when it is not true help or hurt income? I’m sure your sarcastic comment is pointing to one of these. I personally don’t enjoy giving some one no additional money or perks but pretending they are not cogs like OP is saying. You’re treating them like cogs by not paying…

The OPs comment does affect income inequality when implemented at scale. As easy as the implementation is for you and your team, those results have relatively little affect in the scheme of things. In order to make the suggestion a paradigm shift, money would be moved from the top to the bottom in an "at scale" implementation. Edit: paying your workers less per output has essentially been the last major management pa…

Ah right. Agreed. Good points.

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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TeMPOraL wrote: post #41
skinnymuch wrote: post #33

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I don’t think it is satire. I find the comments that want to spin cogs into a good thing by changing the name and manipulating the imaging so lowly people don’t know how you they are really viewed, worse than any thing this app is doing, satire or not.

I also assumed it is satire. I think a lot of devs eventually realize that the whole "gig economy", as it is, is essentially an API for humans. I also agree that, on the off chance this isn't satire, its current, honest form is much better than the proposed "marketability improvements" would make it.

I passed this off to my brother and two friends. All who I know have used mechanical Turks for their academic work. None of them brought up the name or any weirdness. Nothing to write home about. But another anecdote for me
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