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Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

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Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

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The photo is much higher resolution than it appears to be: http://bef.no/radio/Photo3.jpg Those buttons look great, and this is a very thoughtful idea.

Never took the effort to reduce it to standard Internet size. But I will if I get 10 000 hits on the page tomorrow too. Amazon wants its dues. Yes, it looks really cool, expensive but cool.

Oh, I mentioned it in case anyone wanted a better look at the buttons...

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

#82

+1 for tactile buttons! Through our work at GoGoGrandparent.com (a service that helps older adults and people living with disabilities use Uber/Lyft, grocery services, meal services and pharmacy services reliably without smartphones) we’ve interviewed dozens of folks living with visual impairments. The feedback that stands out the most was from a gentlemen in his 30s or 40s living with blindness since birth. Paraphra…

I spent an hour or so messing with Siri on a Mac Mini I have lying around from an old contract gig. Wondering how I would use it without much (or any) vision. It's directly hooked to a fairly fast lump of hardware and communicating with a potentially huge back-end.

Utterly maddening, barely useful, overly tied to Apple products, and it's a design problem I had never considered before. Kind of disappointing after watching some video of Tesla auto pilot do it's thing, perhaps natural language processing is harder.

Other people have gone down this road, but it would be interesting to think about how a purely audio and button based internet and phone system would act. It's a wonderful thought problem. It could well be that the solution is not in website redesign, but in the parsing and analysis of the website. How would you describe a banking site to a sightless person?

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

#83

Instead of mucking about to get Chrome to play various streaming formats - author could have launched VLC instead. VLC will play any URL you throw at it. I have completed the software of a Raspberry Pi radio project, I've been procrastinating on the hardware for months now (buttons, DAC/amp speaker and maybe tiny OLED screen?)

Good point, even more so because I use VLC myself because of the exact same reason, it plays anything. I just never thought of giving it URLs, only local files.

(But the user interface in VLC sucks though...)

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

#84
post #59

Well, he could have bought an actual wifi capable radio for around half the price of a Stream Deck. (Unless, of course, he already had the latter device.) It's an existing product.

Yes, I could. It would not have been so fun. And all Internet radios I have seen so far have some features that irritate me. For instance volume is push-buttons instead of turning knobs. Actually, the only interface I would have on a radio is two turning knobs, one for volume and one for channel. Thats all. The rest could be some phone or PC setup like 'kingsuper20' suggested. Too sad Apple never gave us a radio. I m…

A turning knob is not the best UI for channel selection. It is a traditional one, but even my grandmother's large box radio, that must have been manufactured something like 70 years ago (not a transistor one, mind you!) had push buttons for remembering the stations. (Besides the tuning knob.) Or maybe those were 'pre-programmed', not sure.

But again, if you didn't like them and had this gadget (or wanted an excuse to buy one ;) ), then it's the better solution. I was mainly reacting because it seemed like a lot of people thought that this is a generally practical solution.

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

#85
I like this, because it's beautifully simple. I have been collecting radio stations since 2016 now, and something I have noticed is that streaming URLs tend to break rather often. It might be worth putting them behind a simple redirect so you can change the streaming URL remotely.

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

#86

That's a really good idea. For reasons I won't trouble anyone with, I've been educating myself with accessibility features on computers/phones/tablets, smart speakers, appliances, etc. It's funny how much shittier it all is than it could be. It certainly hasn't helped that the button-per-function thinking in consumer product design has been largely replaced with low cost small displays. Maybe I'll design a piano that…

Could you trouble me with reasons? I for one just looked around what accessibility APIs are where and am thinking about a custom widget toolkit that would go from accessibility first down to typical graphical stuff. So if that's not a trouble for you, could you expand?

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

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post #86

That's a really good idea. For reasons I won't trouble anyone with, I've been educating myself with accessibility features on computers/phones/tablets, smart speakers, appliances, etc. It's funny how much shittier it all is than it could be. It certainly hasn't helped that the button-per-function thinking in consumer product design has been largely replaced with low cost small displays. Maybe I'll design a piano that…

Could you trouble me with reasons? I for one just looked around what accessibility APIs are where and am thinking about a custom widget toolkit that would go from accessibility first down to typical graphical stuff. So if that's not a trouble for you, could you expand?

You know, a reasonable place to start would be to (for example) fire up a Mac, fire up Siri, turn off the monitor, try to get anything done at all.

Write some software, set up the machine differently, reboot it, turn off the monitor, try again.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

#88

If the author is reading this, you've hit/stumbled on "HTTP Live Streaming" radios which are sort of the next evolution of classic Shoutcast/Icecast generated streams. There are better clients for it out there than Chrome which could probably enhance the experience (proper audio controls, etc.): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming#Clients

there are some audio clients with http interfaces - I know VLC does, for one. So depending on how fancy you want to get, there's quite a lot of buttons a dedicated app could push on an audio client to get it to do exactly what you want, just by sending some HTTP requests (although just plain command line may be fine).

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

#89

This is amazing - and incidentally has given me a solution to a very real problem. My grandmother is suffering from dementia, and within the last few months has forgotten how to tune a radio. She's an avid radio listener, so I worked around this by buying her a few radios, tuning them, and labelling them - so she only has to hit the power button on the one she wants. Unfortunately, she's not thrilled by how much spac…

A SDR + some sort of "stream deck" from the parent article could be a potential "offline" solution. You could even wire a couple mechanical keyboard switches to Rpi's GPIO pins for selecting preset channels and avoid the stream-thingy all together.

RTL-SDR: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0129EBDS2

https://github.com/pothosware/SoapySDR/wiki/PythonSupport

Re: Show HN: Giving my mother-in-law an easy internet radio with real icon buttons

#90

This is amazing - and incidentally has given me a solution to a very real problem. My grandmother is suffering from dementia, and within the last few months has forgotten how to tune a radio. She's an avid radio listener, so I worked around this by buying her a few radios, tuning them, and labelling them - so she only has to hit the power button on the one she wants. Unfortunately, she's not thrilled by how much spac…

I think there's a business opportunity around people who aren't tech literate and want what tech they have to stay the same, but every time I think about what an ecosystem that could handle everything from photo sharing to email to even the TV, it seems like a fool's errand because the market seems small, it keeps shifting to people to are comfortable with somewhat newer things, and I don't think enough people would actually pay for it.
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