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Re: Show HN: Deck for Reddit – A Reddit client optimized for desktop

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Post by lopis »

rndgermandude wrote: post #79
gonehome wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Reddit could throw away all of the new stuff and be better off. Everything they’ve done after maybe 2010 could just be thrown away. An enormous waste of programmer effort and time for something that is a lot worse than what they started with.

The developers and designers had to justify getting paid, and they do that by producing features and a new "user experience". And if it's slow and rough, even better, job security for the foreseeable future until you fix the stuff. Throw in the second-system effect they fell for in my humble opinion, and you got your explanation of what's going on. Next up: Rinse and repeat.

I mean, we're talking about a website frontend that was what, 10 years old? At this point all frontend code was probably legacy and noone in the company knew how to maintain it properly, so they started over.

Re: Show HN: Deck for Reddit – A Reddit client optimized for desktop

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Post by nicoburns »

kabacha wrote: post #58
fludlight wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's fine until they discontinue old.reddit.com at some point in the near future.

By then hopefully reddit alternatives like Lemmy[1] become viable 1 - https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy

Yeah, I didn't think the Lemmy project would go very far when I first saw it. But the implementation is very impressive (performance seems comparable to HN), and the self-hosted model seems like it could be quite amenable to communities staying in control.

Re: Show HN: Deck for Reddit – A Reddit client optimized for desktop

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Post by pjc50 »

lopis wrote: post #81
rndgermandude wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The developers and designers had to justify getting paid, and they do that by producing features and a new "user experience". And if it's slow and rough, even better, job security for the foreseeable future until you fix the stuff. Throw in the second-system effect they fell for in my humble opinion, and you got your explanation of what's going on. Next up: Rinse and repeat.

I mean, we're talking about a website frontend that was what, 10 years old? At this point all frontend code was probably legacy and noone in the company knew how to maintain it properly, so they started over.

That's what happened to del.icio.us after it was bought by Yahoo. Kind of ridiculous that web code ages out that badly, but I guess in startup world as long as it lasts till the IPO or acquishutdown that's all that matters.

Re: Show HN: Deck for Reddit – A Reddit client optimized for desktop

#84

Post by pjc50 »

pedrogpimenta wrote: post #74

I'm also building, or trying to, a client for Reddit made with React. The thing I'm not achieving is properly rendering videos hosted on Reddit. I've come to the conclusion that it's impossible. It's totally closed from being played outside of reddit.com by using CORS. I can't in any way play the DASH or HLS files from reddit. I can load the mp4 fallback, but guess what? It's a video without audio. You can get the au…

Would some sort of slightly ridiculous iframe fallback work? That is, just embed reddit's entire video play page?

Re: Show HN: Deck for Reddit – A Reddit client optimized for desktop

#85

Post by rndgermandude »

lopis wrote: post #81
rndgermandude wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The developers and designers had to justify getting paid, and they do that by producing features and a new "user experience". And if it's slow and rough, even better, job security for the foreseeable future until you fix the stuff. Throw in the second-system effect they fell for in my humble opinion, and you got your explanation of what's going on. Next up: Rinse and repeat.

I mean, we're talking about a website frontend that was what, 10 years old? At this point all frontend code was probably legacy and noone in the company knew how to maintain it properly, so they started over.

They could have spent the time they used to produce the current mess to learn about the old code and improve on it, or document it and then use it as a starting point for their new stuff and then improve on it.

10 years isn't necessarily bad either. Just look at HN. Functional with minimum of JS, 2.0kB transferred to load this reply page, tho it will not win any fancy design awards anytime soon. But all in all, great user experience. If you wanted to inline the reply form into the comments pages, that can be done easily in under 1KB of unminified js.

Loading the reddit frontpage (not signed in, adblocker): 21.8MB transferred (11.7 without media and fonts), 501 requests (183), 20+ seconds to load, 11667 ms of scripting. What the actual fuck.

old.reddit.com: 2.7MB transferred (2.1MB), 100 requests (24), <2seconds to load, <300ms of scripting.

Re: Show HN: Deck for Reddit – A Reddit client optimized for desktop

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Post by pjc50 »

bra-ket wrote: post #28
gruez wrote: post #24

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Funny how not wanting people to get summarily executed by the police is considered "radical left".

Encouraging violence on a forum intended for cat pictures seems pretty radical to me i'm all for revolution, my best friend is actually a bolshevik, just don't use non-political medium to push some agenda

> i'm all for revolution, my best friend is actually a bolshevik, just don't use non-political medium to push some agenda

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Not only do I not believe that, I'm sure the Bolsheviks had some words about attempting to separate the world into separate "political" and "apolitical" arenas.

Re: Show HN: Deck for Reddit – A Reddit client optimized for desktop

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Post by lopis »

pedrogpimenta wrote: post #74

I'm also building, or trying to, a client for Reddit made with React. The thing I'm not achieving is properly rendering videos hosted on Reddit. I've come to the conclusion that it's impossible. It's totally closed from being played outside of reddit.com by using CORS. I can't in any way play the DASH or HLS files from reddit. I can load the mp4 fallback, but guess what? It's a video without audio. You can get the au…

> For a website dedicated to sharing stuff from all around the we

Reddit has moved away from being a sharing website to being a social network. This started years ago, but they have consistently move in the direction of siloing users. Strongly encourage users to upload images and videos directly to reddit; Reddit media cannot be hot-linked and always shows you the reddit thread; new features are only available in the official site and apps; certain media won't play properly on third party apps; website experience degraded by constantly pushing users to their app, where they can better control and track them.

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