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Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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>No, the alternative would be to know what they said the rules are. Problem is, parts of the text are maddeningly vague, and they didn't exactly agree in their politics, so a single, simple, objective and provably correct interpretation of those rules is not always possible. >If you don't think it's an accurate statement of how some judges view the Constitution, make your case. I do think that's an accurate statement…

Well, the former makes the people of the Founding Fathers' generation the master over the Constitution (they ratified it). The latter makes the people of this generation the masters over it. > Problem is, parts of the text are maddeningly vague, and they didn't exactly agree in their politics, so a single, simple, objective and provably correct interpretation of those rules is not always possible. True. >>If you don'…

>Let me put it this way: Trump may, before he's done, nominate three Supreme Court justices. Do you want those justices to decide based on what they think is "acceptable as a policy matter"? Or do you want them to be bound by what the text says?

If I support decisions by previous courts, such as Roe V. Wade and Obergefell v. Hodges, then the intellectually honest position would be to concede that whomever Trump nominates has the right to do the same. I may not like it, but I do believe that is the Court's prerogative.

I don't think it's harmful to consider updated interpretations of the Constitution per se, although particular decisions can do harm even when they correctly reflect the attitudes of the time (as with Plessy V. Ferguson and segregation.) But then, obviously wrong interpretations can also be reversed. I think that we're a stronger democracy for being able to ask these questions, and consider the Constitution as evolving philosophy as much as a legal document, than if we were prevented from doing so.

>Is it? We don't accept that reasoning with contracts, why should we with the Constitution?

Well... the Constitution isn't a contract. If it were, it would be far more precise and verbose in its language, and you wouldn't have entire bodies of scholarship around the meaning of a comma.

But here we are in 2018, in the age of the internet, global surveillance, 3d printed guns, genome sequencing and a thousand other things the Founders would probably never have conceived of. If we remain bound only by the original intent of the original definition of the words of the Constitution when interpreting challenges and questions of Constitutional law, then I'm afraid the result is going to be that Constitution becoming less and less relevant to modern society.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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The idea of the ory ecosystem ( https://github.com/ory / https://www.ory.am ) is to build a reliable, cloud native suite of tools which allow you to solve simple and complex IAM (identity and access management) use cases. Each service works standalone, but you can obviously combine them all. The Oathkeeper proxy is one piece of the puzzle which basically takes incoming HTTP requests, evaluates them on a set of rules…

> solve simple and complex IAM really great. please comment on the intersection with auth0. clearly there is some overlap, it would be great to have a concise explanation. > we do not want to reinvent the wheel IMHO, were I you I would not shy away from that. Existing wheels are oval in shape. Of course where you have to interoperate, you are limited. > ps: New account because I lost my password and didn't set up a b…

Getting the wrong password in your password manager happens occasionally. Usually from password resets that somehow don't make it into your password manager. The fact that HN allows accounts without email addresses is the real problem. Also, maybe he just doesn't value his HN account all that much.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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The idea of the ory ecosystem ( https://github.com/ory / https://www.ory.am ) is to build a reliable, cloud native suite of tools which allow you to solve simple and complex IAM (identity and access management) use cases. Each service works standalone, but you can obviously combine them all. The Oathkeeper proxy is one piece of the puzzle which basically takes incoming HTTP requests, evaluates them on a set of rules…

Where is the ORY Security Console hidden? I can't see it on GitHub and all links lead to a running instance of it? Is this how you're hoping to monetise all your hard work? I don't begrudge that at all :-) It's just a little unclear? If there's going to be a security console, I wouldn't want it hosted by anyone else. Especially if I'm the type of person to deploy all the other components I'll undoubtedly want to depl…

anything regarding this? Would also be interested if you plan releasing the console, i.e. allow a fully self-hosted usage.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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post #57

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If you make a meaningful product in your space and the origins of the name are easily explained through 1: your aforementioned wordplay and 2: the GoT reference (likely more common), then I think you should fight to keep a name you love and find meaning in. Got any examples of this strategy succeeding?

Got any examples of it not?

Blackwater.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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post #64
post #57

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If you make a meaningful product in your space and the origins of the name are easily explained through 1: your aforementioned wordplay and 2: the GoT reference (likely more common), then I think you should fight to keep a name you love and find meaning in. Got any examples of this strategy succeeding?

Got any examples of it not?

Phillip Morris

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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post #58

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If you have exculpatory sources, make with the URLs instead of casting pennies from the peanut gallery.

I am hardly the peanut gallery here. An accusation was flung at an honorable organization from out of the blue, and I responded to that accusation. Since this is your first appearance in the thread, I would suggest you are the peanut gallery here. I will post a motherjones (not exactly conservative friendly site) that, while not complementary, at least highlights that oath keepers is composed of individuals of divers…

The dude who started the org made up the "Hitlery" nickname. Conclusion: not honorable.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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I am hardly the peanut gallery here. An accusation was flung at an honorable organization from out of the blue, and I responded to that accusation. Since this is your first appearance in the thread, I would suggest you are the peanut gallery here. I will post a motherjones (not exactly conservative friendly site) that, while not complementary, at least highlights that oath keepers is composed of individuals of divers…

The dude who started the org made up the "Hitlery" nickname. Conclusion: not honorable.

I doubt he had that honor. Lot's of people call her Hitlery. This is one reason she has that title.

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wknw5UwClFI&bpctr=1531431778

* https://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/december-2017-marc...

To you, somebody calling her a name is not honorable. You don't care what she did to earn that name.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Are you aware that this project shares a name with an extremist group[0]? I'm not sure how concerned you are about that, especially if you're not American, but I'd want to know if it were one of my projects. [0] https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...

It is extremely important to be sensitive to extremism of any kind, condemn extremist practices, beliefs, and views and take a stance against extremist ideologies. We do not share nor endorse extremist views nor "values", nor have anything to do with extremist groups whatsoever. We have not heard about them (Oath Keepers) before. We'll discuss a name change internally & with the community. ps: It also shares the name…

Could be worse, you could be this guy - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/8xn9ta/using_rope_...

:P

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