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Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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This is wildly un-new. Mutual insurance companies have existed for literally hundreds of years. Oldest one I can find in 5 minutes dates to 1762, and if you include merchant insurance organizations, probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_insurance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equitable_Life_Assurance_S...

Is that a bad thing? It just means that it's an existing market, done better. Your comment reminds me a lot of the first criticism of the iPod "less space than a jukebox" or the guy who berated Dropbox by calling it a dumb GUI to rsync.

Yeah, who needs Uber when you can hail a cab in one swift motion

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#82

This is wildly un-new. Mutual insurance companies have existed for literally hundreds of years. Oldest one I can find in 5 minutes dates to 1762, and if you include merchant insurance organizations, probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_insurance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equitable_Life_Assurance_S...

True. We like to say that Lemonade is the oldest new idea! I think that's what the sharing economy is all about, using technology to revive modes of social interaction that used to be commonplace.

Thats a great way of looking at the sharing economy. Once upon a time I asked my neighbor for a cup of sugar and they obliged, if even begrudgingly. Nowadays I pay a task rabbit $35 to get me a cup of sugar.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#83
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This looks awesome I might check it out. But the "P2P" branding is likely going to be confusing to a lot of people. In fact even after reading the explanation I still don't understand the peer to peer model in this context and I know what Peer to Peer means.

I was really hoping it was like the p2p lending where I choose who is in my insurance pool and thus my vetted circle bear eachother's costs, but not the costs of those outside my circle. So I can tell my stinky aunt that I wont underwrite her health insurance until she quits smoking.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#84

This is wildly un-new. Mutual insurance companies have existed for literally hundreds of years. Oldest one I can find in 5 minutes dates to 1762, and if you include merchant insurance organizations, probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_insurance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equitable_Life_Assurance_S...

True. We like to say that Lemonade is the oldest new idea! I think that's what the sharing economy is all about, using technology to revive modes of social interaction that used to be commonplace.

What is Lemonade's relationship with Goldman Sachs?

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#85

It looks like these are the companies that are really insuring you: Lloyd’s of London, Berkshire Hathaway’s National Indemnity, XL Catlin etc. Basically they are buying a policy from one of those companies adding 20% and selling it to you. A insurance company works by spreading risk over a large area. By selling everything in NY they are increasing their correlation which raises risk. One of the reasons for the sub p…

Their street address is the Goldman Sachs building.

And Geico's overhead is closer to 15%.

So... do what you want with that info.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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Hey, thanks for trying. Can you share more details? Browser, device, etc. It seems like everything works properly on our end

@gilsadis, in response to your request for information above: As others related, this isn't a bug report. This is about the design of your conversion funnel and the appropriateness of what levels of information I will consent to offering while your site is attempting to build a relationship with me. When you don't know me, you can have my zip code. Show me some awesome rates based on my zip code, and maybe then I'll…

They run a credit check to determine your premium (in part). So yeah, they need your name...

https://lemonade.com/faq#general

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#87
post #41

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I will answer you as nobody else will. Hacker News users are interested in this idea, but don't want to divulge their actual address to get a "price quote". Ideally, they'd like to give their zip code and get a round-about dollar figure they can use to compare to their current pricing.

Fair enough. The reason we ask for your name first is because we want to create a more personal chat experience. We believe that buying insurance should not only be instant but also delightful.

Do you use name and address solely to be delightful or do you use it in other ways, like to order insurance score, clue or prefill any other 3rd party data for additional segmentation?

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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post #20

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According to the video ("The Science Behind Lemonade") linked on the homepage, it seems the key difference is this company take a flat fee while other insurance company "makes profit" from declining claim , so the Lemonade has no incentive to decline a claim which makes the claim process fast; and also they donate the extra profit to charity

That doesn't sound right -- a claim should be paid out or denied based on the veracity of the claim, not on the profit motive of the company. Sure, a for-profit company has extra incentive to vet claims, but so does Lemonade (since they dont want to be swindled). Traditional insurance companies make their margins on the cash they have to hold on hand.

They're capitalizing on the lack of trust people have for typical insurance companies. Even though a claim "should be" paid out based on the veracity of the claim, I think there's a population that doesn't trust the insurance company to operate this way.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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post #53
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will answer you as nobody else will. Hacker News users are interested in this idea, but don't want to divulge their actual address to get a "price quote". Ideally, they'd like to give their zip code and get a round-about dollar figure they can use to compare to their current pricing.

Can't they just give an address nearby instead ?

Sure, that's what you could do if you really wanted to know.

It's not really a "refreshing" experience though - their main selling point.

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