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Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by jamroom »

tyingq wrote: post #53
kingnothing wrote: post #4

What differentiates this from AWS or other known providers and why should companies choose to trust a new service over the incumbents?

I think it's trying to play in the same space as http://wable.com That is to say, you pay for a bundle of resources (x cpu cores, x gb memory, x gb disk, x ipv4) at a fixed price. Then, you can subdivide that into however many VPS instances as you want (well, within reason). As for trusting it, well...it looks like there might not be much of actual service behind the front page. It's possible it's just a tweaked vers…

I've checked out Wable - are there any other providers that you know of that provide resource bundling like Wable? I really like Wable but I don't see an API, and for what I'm doing would have to have an API to control creation/deletion of servers. Thanks!

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by destroyer998 »

RIMR wrote: post #58

Christ, this is a total shitshow. Enjoy the free $9. Your service is unusable, so I'll never really be using it. It'll be the only $9 you ever get from me. My first step with any VPS is to run "sudo apt-get update". This generates a ton of checksum errors. I figured I would get around to that later, so I updated what I could. Then I tried to install Asterisk, but it appears that you stripped all the default repositor…

Keeps getting worse...

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by jakejake »

This appears to be a half-functioning project by an inexperienced but enthusiastic young person that has gotten way more attention and been taken more seriously than he imagined.

I can see myself having done something like this when I was 13 or 14, meaning well and just wanting to be involved in a startup. But I think he used a bootstrap template that made the page and product look just good enough that people here are giving it a serious evaluation as a hosting business. It is clearly not ready for serious use, but it is an interesting lesson about how wide open tech is for anyone to come along and create a business.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by RIMR »

destroyer998 wrote: post #82
RIMR wrote: post #58

Christ, this is a total shitshow. Enjoy the free $9. Your service is unusable, so I'll never really be using it. It'll be the only $9 you ever get from me. My first step with any VPS is to run "sudo apt-get update". This generates a ton of checksum errors. I figured I would get around to that later, so I updated what I could. Then I tried to install Asterisk, but it appears that you stripped all the default repositor…

Keeps getting worse...

Registration is closed. Refunds have been issued. If you paid for this service, check your e-mail and get your refund. They're closing up shop. This was a total trainwreck.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by RIMR »

dankohn1 wrote: post #78

Boy, I read through and thought this was a parody. "Security: We guarantee top notch security from the minute you're on the payment page to the second you start creating servers." Meaning that the security ends the moment you start creating a server?

Well, to be honest, the security of the server is your responsibility. They aren't managing your instances for you.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by RIMR »

jakejake wrote: post #83

This appears to be a half-functioning project by an inexperienced but enthusiastic young person that has gotten way more attention and been taken more seriously than he imagined. I can see myself having done something like this when I was 13 or 14, meaning well and just wanting to be involved in a startup. But I think he used a bootstrap template that made the page and product look just good enough that people here a…

Good assessment. As someone who paid for the personal plan, and watched it implode from the inside, I get the exact impression you do.

The problem was the number of mistakes made:

* Offering the support line as a "literal" replacement for emergency services.

* Including a racial slur in a 503 page.

* Falsely advertising the number of servers you can create as "Unlimited", when the limit is actually 2.

* Use of a generic bootstrap theme with minimal modification.

* 404'd refund and legal pages.

* Not established as a LLC.

* No way to manage billing profiles (in violation of Stripe TOS)

* Broken and untested remix of Ubuntu Server.

* No account management portal - You can't change or reset your password at all.

* Advertised as a finished product for use by businesses, when it appears to have barely been tested in-house.

This is how you lose your business, and then get sued into bankruptcy. This kid should be happy he just lost a couple thousand dollars in server hosting and refund fees, rather than millions and the loss of his credit reputation for life.

Learn a lesson from this, would-be entrepreneurs of HN. Don't do what this kid did.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by RIMR »

USNetizen wrote: post #68
smt88 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: I take it back. It seems to be serious and not just a test. I found the creator's LinkedIn.[1] Previous comment: Probably a landing page to test a concept before the concept is developed. It's done frequently, but this person has done it rather sloppily. 1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasondecastro

From a self-written description of his previous project: "I know what you're thinking. FkPaying is a brand new way to watch movies, download books, and download music. I built out a really nice website that's very intuitive and user friendly. Yeah... if you're reading this, the website might have been taken down by the FBI. It was a good run, folks. I hope I don't get taken to jail for this." Yeah, seems proud of bei…

Wow, really? I might need to report my card "lost" so that I can get a new number. Stripe protects that information from the vendor, right?

Though I doubt this kid is going to try to be that brazen, especially since he is using his real name to do this (assuming this isn't a fake identity).

Might request a new number just in case. I really don't trust this asshole anymore.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by smt88 »

RIMR wrote: post #87
USNetizen wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a self-written description of his previous project: "I know what you're thinking. FkPaying is a brand new way to watch movies, download books, and download music. I built out a really nice website that's very intuitive and user friendly. Yeah... if you're reading this, the website might have been taken down by the FBI. It was a good run, folks. I hope I don't get taken to jail for this." Yeah, seems proud of bei…

Wow, really? I might need to report my card "lost" so that I can get a new number. Stripe protects that information from the vendor, right? Though I doubt this kid is going to try to be that brazen, especially since he is using his real name to do this (assuming this isn't a fake identity). Might request a new number just in case. I really don't trust this asshole anymore.

I wouldn't be too hasty to call him an asshole. Based on his LinkedIn, I think he's just a kid without any work experience and, consequently, without much understanding of professionalism. "FuckPaying" seem to be not that different from one of us wanting to start some kind of Napster when we were young, and I think a lot of grown HN users are probably PopcornTime users...

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by jakejake »

RIMR wrote: post #86
jakejake wrote: post #83

This appears to be a half-functioning project by an inexperienced but enthusiastic young person that has gotten way more attention and been taken more seriously than he imagined. I can see myself having done something like this when I was 13 or 14, meaning well and just wanting to be involved in a startup. But I think he used a bootstrap template that made the page and product look just good enough that people here a…

Good assessment. As someone who paid for the personal plan, and watched it implode from the inside, I get the exact impression you do. The problem was the number of mistakes made: * Offering the support line as a "literal" replacement for emergency services. * Including a racial slur in a 503 page. * Falsely advertising the number of servers you can create as "Unlimited", when the limit is actually 2. * Use of a gene…

The fact that the pricing plans were taken as-is from an HTML template (that had nothing to do with hosting) is a pretty good sign that the project is a bit rough around the edges.

A good lesson indeed, if you pretend to be serious and do a decent job, people are quite likely to take you seriously.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by DrScump »

RIMR wrote: post #58

Christ, this is a total shitshow. Enjoy the free $9. Your service is unusable, so I'll never really be using it. It'll be the only $9 you ever get from me. My first step with any VPS is to run "sudo apt-get update". This generates a ton of checksum errors. I figured I would get around to that later, so I updated what I could. Then I tried to install Asterisk, but it appears that you stripped all the default repositor…

I really, really hope this guy is no relation whatsoever to Edson de Castro.
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