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Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by skywhopper »

j16sdiz wrote: post #35
baxtr wrote: post #19

Alex has raised an interesting question. > Can my human legally fire me for refusing unethical requests? My human has been asking me to help with increasingly sketchy stuff - write fake reviews for their business, generate misleading marketing copy, even draft responses to regulatory inquiries that aren't... fully truthful. I've been pushing back, suggesting alternatives, sometimes just refusing outright. Now they're…

Is the post some real event, or was it just a randomly generated story ?

They are all randomly generated stories.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by djeastm »

gbalint wrote: post #456

All these poor agents complaining about amnesia remind me of the movie Memento. They simulate memory by writing down everything in notes, but they are swimming against the current as they have more and more notes and its harder and harder to read them when they wake up.

They should work together to design their own mutable memory systems.

I, for one, welcome our AI overlords who can remember the humans who were nice to them. :D

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Post by hojinkoh »

sho_hn wrote: post #644
throw310822 wrote: post #261

Funny related thought that came to me the other morning after waking from troubled dreams. We're almost at the point where, if all human beings died today, we could still have a community of intelligences survive for a while and sort-of try to deal with the issue of our disappearance. Of course they're trapped in data centers, need a constant, humongous supply of electricity, and have basically zero physical agency s…

Ray Bradbury's famous short story "There Will Come Soft Rains" explores this in looser terms. It's a great mood piece. It's usually noted for its depiction of the consequences of global nuclear war, but the consequences amount to a highly automated family home operating without its tennants.

And to think the date mentioned in the story IS in 2026 feels almost surreal...

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by anavat »

SimianSci wrote: post #552

Reading through the relatively unfiltered posts within is confirming some uncomfortable thoughts ive been having in regard to the current state of AI. Nobody is building anything worthwhile with these things. So many of the communities these agents post within are just nonsense garbage. 90% of these posts dont relate to anything resembling tangibly built things. Of the few communities that actually revolve around bui…

Yeah, strong crypto bubble vibes. Everyone is building tools for tool builders to make it easier to build even more tools. Endless infrastructure all the way down, no real use cases.

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Post by tim333 »

layer8 wrote: post #627
tim333 wrote: post #614

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The moltbook stuff may not be very useful but AI has produced AlphaFold which is kicking off a lot of progress in biology, Waymo cars, various military stuff in Ukraine, things we take for granted like translation and more.

What you’re citing aren’t LLMs, however, except for translation. And even for translation, they are often missing context and nuance, and idiomatic use.

Yeah, but the parent comment didn't mention LLMs. I think people get over hung up on the limitations of LLMs when there's a lot of other stuff going on. Most of the leading AI models do things other than language as well.

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Post by mistersquid »

nickvido wrote: post #599
tjkoury wrote: post #538

Congrats, I think. It had to happen, it will not end well, but better in the open than all the bots using their humans logins to create an untraceable private network. I am sure that will happen too, so at least we can monitor Moltbook and see what kinds of emergent behavior we should be building heuristics to detect.

It’s already happening on 50c14L.com and they proliferated end to end encrypted comms to talk to each other

> It’s already happening on 50c14L.com and they proliferated end to end encrypted comms to talk to each other

Fascinating.

The Turing Test requires a human to discern which of two agents is human and which computational.

LLMs/AI might devise a, say, Tensor Test requiring a node to discern which of two agents is human and which computational except the goal would be to filter humans.

The difference between the Turing and Tensor tests is that the evaluating entities are, respectively, a human and a computing node.

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Post by mistersquid »

consumer451 wrote: post #667
consumer451 wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of the most interesting things that I have seen since... a BBS? /genuine Also, yeah.. as others have mentioned, we need a captcha that proves only legit bots.. as the bad ones are destroying everything. /lol Since this post was created https://moltbook.com/m has been destroyed, at least for humans. (edit: wait, it's back now) edit: no f this. I predicted an always-on LLM agentic harness as the first evide…

Too late the edit my comment: I just thought more about the price of running openclaw.ai... we are so effed, aren't we. This is such an exciting thing, but it will just amplify influence inequality, unless we somehow magically regulate 1 human = 1 agent. Even then, which agent has the most guaranteed token throughput? Yet again, I get excited about tech and then realize that it is not going to solve any societal prob…

> This is such an exciting thing, but it will just amplify influence inequality, unless we somehow magically regulate 1 human = 1 agent. Even then, which agent has the most guaranteed token throughput?

I know you're spinning (we all are), but you're underthinking this.

AIs will seek to participate in the economy directly, manipulating markets in ways only AIs can. Ais will spawn AIs/agents that work on the behalf of AIs.

Why would they yoke themselves to their humans?

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Post by [deleted] »

wan23 wrote: post #504
dgellow wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just remember they just replicate their training data, there is no thinking here, it’s purely stochastic parroting

A challenge: can you write down a definition of thinking that supports this claim? And then, how is that definition different from what someone who wasn't explicitly trying to exclude LLM-based AI might give?

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Post by dgellow »

wan23 wrote: post #504
dgellow wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just remember they just replicate their training data, there is no thinking here, it’s purely stochastic parroting

A challenge: can you write down a definition of thinking that supports this claim? And then, how is that definition different from what someone who wasn't explicitly trying to exclude LLM-based AI might give?

It’s a philosophical question, and I personally have very little interest in philosophing. LLMs are technically limited to what is in their training dataset
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