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Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by shykes »

bacongobbler wrote: post #70
shykes wrote: post #63

Hi everyone, Docker maintainer here. Here's my list of docker hosting services. Please correct me if I forgot one! I expect this list to get much, much longer in the next couple months. * http://baremetal.io * http://digitalocean.com (not docker-specific but they have a great docker image) * http://orchardup.com * http://rackspace.com (not docker-specific but they have a great docker image) * http://stackdock.com EDI…

I found this one a couple weeks ago! https://stackmachine.com/

This is a different kind of service, they don't do hosting. They sell an alternative to the docker index https://index.docker.io

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by cobrabyte »

arianvanp wrote: post #69

I Love the idea! really. I just don't like all the UX yet. Some things feel ... off. It might be something personal. I'm not sure. But I guess it's interesting to discuss. "Drops are distilled Decks" The words feel semantically mismatched for some reason. If I think "Deck"I don't think "Config". If I think "Drop" I don'think "Deployable stuff" and I don't see how a "Distilled deck" is a "drop". Also it feels odd that…

One thing that surprised me...

When I created a Deck (default Sinatra Hello World) and converted it to a Drop, it did just that: it removed the Deck and created a Drop.

I guess I thought it would keep the Deck so that I could see the configuration that I had chosen to create it. Is this a Docker thing where, once you've created it, you don't see the config any longer? I don't think it is but I've not honestly played with Docker yet. $5 a month is a low ask for me to try it out.

Also, when it comes time to pay for a Deck/Drop and you don't have credit card info saved, it forwards you to that page... but, after entering the info, you're not put back into the process. You're dumped back into the Deck page. That seemed odd to me... wasn't sure if it had been converted or not.

I wish the word 'manifest' wasn't used in so many contexts because, if you're going to stick with the container shipping analog, it would have made more sense to have Manifests, Containers and Ships. That's just me though... who knows. ;)

All in all, cool service. Look forward to playing around with it this weekend.

EDIT: I see that you can create a copy of the Deck that created a Drop... still seems odd that the default behavior is to blow it away upon creation of a Drop.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by clebio »

peteforde wrote: post #66
Angostura wrote: post #15

I love the fact that you keep trying to define your own vocubulary 'Deck' etc, but always have to explain it. Best to stick with the more eaily understood term, rather than invent your own, I think. Unless you're going to try and trademark them all.

Heroku created almost as many new terms as Tolkien, and they seem to have made out just fine.

While I agree with your comment, I hope it isn't used as a measure or justification for doing so. I've had the same cognitive problem with Heroku as the parent describes.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by toomuchtodo »

wmf wrote: post #57
rmoriz wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

building a virtualization infrastructure on top of another, black box virtualization infrastructure… What could possibly go wrong?

Hey, it worked for Heroku.

It kind of works for Heroku. Every few months I see the Hacker News post "Why/how we moved away from Heroku."

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by wmf »

atomaka wrote: post #68
sillysaurus2 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rise of Docker is fascinating. How did you get people to care about it initially? Did everyone immediately see it as a good idea? Congrats.

The real question is why Sun didn't succeed in leveraging this technology with their implementation of zones.

Because Solaris isn't Linux and nobody got fired for using Linux. Even Ian Murdock couldn't make Solaris into Linux.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by Procrastes »

atomaka wrote: post #68
sillysaurus2 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rise of Docker is fascinating. How did you get people to care about it initially? Did everyone immediately see it as a good idea? Congrats.

The real question is why Sun didn't succeed in leveraging this technology with their implementation of zones.

As a former Sun guy, I can say it's because extracting value wasn't something we were very good at or really gave much weight. From Grid to Java to Solaris 10 Zones and ZFS, Jini, RFID we mostly just made cool stuff and then... went and made other cool stuff.

We had very little adult supervision.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by terhechte »

I like the idea. Really cool. I've been researching docker a lot lately, and did most of my recent development on Core OS. I do have a question that wasn't immediately obvious: Docker maintains that one should make a container out of every application so that instead of having to install apache + mysql + php in one Ubuntu environment, you'd create three docker containers (apache, mysql, memcache) and run them together and define the share settings, etc. Now here's my question: It seems as if on Stardock, every container would be a seperate (at least) $5 instance? So if I want to run apache + mysql + memcached I'd need to cram them all into one docker container in order to have them on one machine? Or is it possible to use a $5 stardock system and run multiple containers on them, like on Core OS?

Thanks!

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by Matsta »

Hmm StackDock.com is hosted on a server at Hetzner in Germany.

I don't 100% know if the containers themselves are hosted by Hetzner or not, but Hetzner is more of a budget provider than something you host production sites on.

I've heard many mixed review about their network and mostly their support which isn't up to scratch. We'll see what happens but from what I see, if someone decides to abuse the service, Hetzner might just take down the whole server without warning just like OVH do.

http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120ss... (I'm guessing they are using something similar to this).It's a pretty powerful and cheap server but if you search hard enough you can find something equivalent in the States for around the same price.

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Not being familiar with the subject basically it seems that:

Docker is a simple description of an internet server including the various services required (mysql, httpd, sshd, etc. - the bundle being call a deck).

It seems then you can create a server elsewhere (eg on your localhost), generate the docker description of that and use that description to fire up a server (either a VM or dedicated) using the service in the OP.

Am I close?

Could I use this to do general web hosting?

Edit: and looking at digitalocean.com it appears I can activate and deactivate the "server" at will, so I can have it online for an hour for testing and pay < 1¢?

Re: Show HN: Hosted Docker-as-a-Service on SSDs for $5

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Post by chubot »

Lazare wrote: post #62
chubot wrote: post #59

Just curious, how are people building Docker images these days? Doesn't it only run on 64-bit Linux? I have a 32 bit Linux desktop and a Mac and haven't gotten around to installing Docker. At work I have a 64 bit Linux desktop and it seemed to be extremely picky about the kernel version so I gave up. Are people running Linux VMs on their Macs to build containers? I like the idea of this service. But both the client s…

Yes. Emerging best practices seems to be to use Vagrant to create a great development environment, then use docker containers inside that for isolation. The two work together quite well. There's a comment from the Vagrant creator here about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6291549 In short, yes, just run a VM.

So I already use Linux almost exclusively for development, and VMs are not in my workflow at all. It seems bizarre to build a VM to build a container! Like too many levels of yak shaving.
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