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Re: Show HN: Ante, a coding agent in a single binary that runs offline

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Post by lrvick »

ubermon wrote: post #33
NitpickLawyer wrote: post #13

Linking to a github repo for a binary release (no source code related to the agent that I could see) is a bit iffy IMO. You should clarify your intentions or link to something else. Might confuse folks.

we put it in the repo README, will add migrate more into public repo as soon as possible.

It has to be 100% open source public code or we will have no way of proving this is not malware, or secretly swapped out for malware later when your CI/CD system or laptop is compromised. Supply chain attacks happen all the time and with closed code no one will be equipped to spot it when it happens.

Also, security aside, engineers want the freedom to modify and experiment with the tools we rely on.

Tools like this are too important to be closed. Do you want to be Internet Explorer or Firefox?

Re: Show HN: Ante, a coding agent in a single binary that runs offline

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Post by nkrisc »

bitpush wrote: post #39
throwlifeaway wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does prompting an AI music generation service count as making your own songs? I noticed you left that one out of your parable.

If figma draws you a gradient, are you really a designer?

A designer, yes. A painter, no.

Re: Show HN: Ante, a coding agent in a single binary that runs offline

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Post by ubermon »

lrvick wrote: post #71
ubermon wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we put it in the repo README, will add migrate more into public repo as soon as possible.

It has to be 100% open source public code or we will have no way of proving this is not malware, or secretly swapped out for malware later when your CI/CD system or laptop is compromised. Supply chain attacks happen all the time and with closed code no one will be equipped to spot it when it happens. Also, security aside, engineers want the freedom to modify and experiment with the tools we rely on. Tools like this a…

Oh no, definitely not Internet Explorer. Will figure out a way to ship with source first to address the security and concern and then figure out how to do the open source development in agentic era later, I was too carried away by the complexity of the latter and ignorant to the former.

Re: Show HN: Ante, a coding agent in a single binary that runs offline

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Post by ubermon »

messh wrote: post #67

I understand that claude-code takes a lot of memory and that's bad. However, harneses are simple loops, in theory should take very little memory even if written in python or typescript. See for e.g. pi agent

I love pi and share many vision and value with it. But my view on harness is that it is to capturing the structural mechanism with llm interacting the world. They are a dynamic duo evolving together. The technical depth will continue to grow (e.g. /goal being the new primitive, multi-agent collaboration is basic need)

Yes the core part is a simple loop, but we have all built toy compilers, inference engine, browsers (it is just a curl command eth) etc. The core algorithm is supposed to be simple.

Had a discussion recently: https://x.com/NoCommas/status/2086568454434537710?s=20

Re: Show HN: Ante, a coding agent in a single binary that runs offline

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Post by ubermon »

thih9 wrote: post #70

> We care about the harness, not the model or the prompts. I wonder if this is a viable approach; after all frontier model providers are betting on the opposite. Then again, they bundle their harness and offer subsidiary pricing - so maybe they themselves aren’t sure if models are as important.

my view on harness is that it is to capturing the structural mechanism with llm interacting the world. They are a dynamic duo evolving together. The technical depth will continue to grow (e.g. /goal being the new primitive, multi-agent collaboration is basic need) So it is here to stay. And it is just our focus as we don't have enough resource (yet) to improve the model and I think prompts belong to the user.

Had a discussion recently: https://x.com/NoCommas/status/2086568454434537710?s=20

Re: Show HN: Ante, a coding agent in a single binary that runs offline

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Post by lrvick »

ubermon wrote: post #73
lrvick wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has to be 100% open source public code or we will have no way of proving this is not malware, or secretly swapped out for malware later when your CI/CD system or laptop is compromised. Supply chain attacks happen all the time and with closed code no one will be equipped to spot it when it happens. Also, security aside, engineers want the freedom to modify and experiment with the tools we rely on. Tools like this a…

Oh no, definitely not Internet Explorer. Will figure out a way to ship with source first to address the security and concern and then figure out how to do the open source development in agentic era later, I was too carried away by the complexity of the latter and ignorant to the former.

When it is 100% freely licensed open source software I can modify and compile myself, I will be happy to give it a shot.

Re: Show HN: Ante, a coding agent in a single binary that runs offline

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Post by ubermon »

gumby wrote: post #78

> “while taking the time to figure out how open source should work in the agentic era” I can’t even guess what this means

generally the challenge now is that 1. how to deal with PR spams by AI bots 2. how to make the project sustainable especially when one has no distribution. when anyone can insta remix and re-package and re-sell your hard work. For knowledge sharing open source it is ok, but if you are serious about what you built, this is question needs to be answered first before make it a true community effort.
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